Clemens Hearing

Yea what a fucking liar clemens is. They are ripping the trainer though
 
any updates? i am recording it on my dvr but anything interesting happening
 
Thats what the trainer gets for telling the truth. . . . . . . . . sad day. Clemens is spineless.
 
I think for us that know the world of AAS use its pretty clear that he used them however whats done is done... if congress wants to get involved go after the owners and union
 
Clemens is getting exposed on something things, but his trainer is getting a beating

He has admitted or been caught lieing over 10 times so far
 
Clemens is getting exposed on something things, but his trainer is getting a beating

He has admitted or been caught lieing over 10 times so far

Well that really sucks. I was hoping Clemens would hang.
 
Clemens should have just confessed to this entire thing he is digging himself a grave... bottom line is everyone is at fault including the fans and general public... shit we all bought into baseball... did we really think record after record being broken was normal or baseball players looking more like bodybuilders... the union and owners turned their backs of course because of money which the general public bought into... I say they fix the problem that existed and just put an a mark on the entire era or nothing at all its impossible to figure out who took it and who didn't and to single one person out based on alegations is wrong in my eyes ... People forgive and forget after a while for mistakes with Clemens lying its doing him no good other then to get a criminal charge
 
How are you guys so sure he's lieing? I really havent been keeping up (cause I can really give two shit's who took what, bottom line is our economy is in the toilet, illegal immagrants are pouring in, our soldiers are dying for people that don't deserve fighting for, but hey, steroids in baseball is a high priority :rolleyes: ) but have they come up with some difinative proof?
 

Cause he is arrogant and a lier. He used Hgh and he is to proud to admit it and thinks he is above getting caught for it. IMO he is no better than Bonds . . . just as arrogant just more respectful about his approach.

It comes down to one mans word against the others, nothing more.
 
Cause he is arrogant and a lier. He used Hgh and he is to proud to admit it and thinks he is above getting caught for it. IMO he is no better than Bonds . . . just as arrogant just more respectful about his approach.

It comes down to one mans word against the others, nothing more.

How do you know he's lieing!!! The one thing I did hear is that Macnamey said he injected Roger with HGH on two or three occasions. We ALL KNOW that you have to take HGH DAILY for it to have any effect, so the fact that he only injected Roger 2 or 3 times is BULLSHIT!!!
 
It comes down to one mans word against the others, nothing more.

exactly, what do rats have to lose by pulling names out of their anus?

if anybody should make you sick it should be the trainers that are ratting imo.
 
exactly, what do rats have to lose by pulling names out of their anus?

if anybody should make you sick it should be the trainers that are ratting imo.

They all are pathetic. Trainers for ratting, the user for "cheating" and lying ................it is the norm now-a-days.
 
we aren't even sure there is a user in this case

the trainer could be ratting and lying
 
Here's some quotes from Yahoo about the hearing:

"Committee chairman Henry Waxman pointed out inconsistencies in Clemens' comments. Rep. Dan Burton repeatedly read remarks McNamee had made, and each time the former trainer was forced to admit they were untrue.

This is really disgusting. You're here as a sworn witness. You're here to tell the truth," the Indiana Republican said. "You're here under oath, and yet we have lie after lie after lie after lie, of where you've told this committee and the people of this country that Roger Clemens did things — I don't know what to believe. I know one thing I don't believe and that's you."

"McNamee told Mitchell that he injected Clemens 16 to 21 times with steroids and human growth hormone from 1998-01. McNamee also said that Pettitte and Chuck Knoblauch used HGH."

"In that affidavit, Andy informed the committee that in addition to the two shots a day of HGH he took for two days in 2002, he also took HGH for a one-day period in 2004, shortly preceding season-ending elbow surgery," his lawyer, Jay Reisinger, said in a statement released to The Associated Press."

What possible fucking good would taking HGH for a 1 day or 2 day period? NONE!!! Do any of these morons have a clue how that shit works?
 
I was able to read and watch some of the meeting while at lunch and only a few of the committee members got it right... The ones who got it right stated that they lost focus on what they are there to do. Their intended purpose intially was to correct baseball and sports alike drug problems so that influence into the youth population would be positive. Now they are acting is if they are a trial pulling in only one man out of 89 that were named in the Mitchell report. Those are the politicians that have it right. Correct the problem with baseball they have no business involving themselves with individual cases. You know what they got out of 5 hours of debates NOTHING. They are in the same position they started in. There were several members that stated this and I only hope there are others listening besides myself. There are way more important issues to focus on then bullshit like this. The messed up part is I am buying into it by listening and wanting to know what happened just like everyone else.
 
I was able to read and watch some of the meeting while at lunch and only a few of the committee members got it right... The ones who got it right stated that they lost focus on what they are there to do. Their intended purpose intially was to correct baseball and sports alike drug problems so that influence into the youth population would be positive. Now they are acting is if they are a trial pulling in only one man out of 89 that were named in the Mitchell report. Those are the politicians that have it right. Correct the problem with baseball they have no business involving themselves with individual cases. You know what they got out of 5 hours of debates NOTHING. They are in the same position they started in. There were several members that stated this and I only hope there are others listening besides myself. There are way more important issues to focus on then bullshit like this. The messed up part is I am buying into it by listening and wanting to know what happened just like everyone else.

Hate to say it but that is totally wrong! Congress and the government has NO right or obligation to "correct the problems" in baseball or any other sport. They have enough on their plate dealing all the real problems our country has. And since when has our government or congess been the moral compass of the country? Gimmie a break, they are the most corrupt people in this country. Maybe they should focus on cleaning up politics instead of sports and then they may have a legit gripe.
 
Hate to say it but that is totally wrong! Congress and the government has NO right or obligation to "correct the problems" in baseball or any other sport. They have enough on their plate dealing all the real problems our country has. And since when has our government or congess been the moral compass of the country? Gimmie a break, they are the most corrupt people in this country. Maybe they should focus on cleaning up politics instead of sports and then they may have a legit gripe.

HA thats exactly my point bro my post was directed towards them missing the entire objective and they really have no business in it they are wasting my tax dollars and yours did you read my entire comment??? :

There were several members that stated this and I only hope there are others listening besides myself. There are way more important issues to focus on then bullshit like this.
 
HA thats exactly my point bro my post was directed towards them missing the entire objective and they really have no business in it they are wasting my tax dollars and yours did you read my entire comment??? :

Yeah, go ahead and say it...... I'm a dumbass! LOL :D
 
HA thats exactly my point bro my post was directed towards them missing the entire objective and they really have no business in it they are wasting my tax dollars and yours did you read my entire comment??? :

No shit, CNN is getting bombarded by people e-mailing in e-mails objections to this fucking steroid nonsense with all the real problems in this country.
 
Clemens should just have admitted to it. But wait he is to arrogant to do that. Look at giambi he came out from the beginning and admitted it and noon has mentioned his name at all. CLemens makes himself look stupid/
 
I could care less if ya ask me....But do these people really know what the hell they were doing???? I mean, i injected myself twice with HGH, or I tried it once to help me heal from an injury.....what??? If this is all true then they did not know how to use this stuff, they are either lying, or just poked themselves every once in a while just to trick themselves into thinking it was helping, i dont know.....Mcnamee said he was the one poking these guys with steroids and HGH, but did not even know what B12 was....Really, are you serious????? I dont even really care about these guys getting busted or not....Most of the players were using anyway, even playing field if ya ask me.....Who cares...
 
Clemens should just have admitted to it. But wait he is to arrogant to do that. Look at giambi he came out from the beginning and admitted it and noon has mentioned his name at all. CLemens makes himself look stupid/

giambi also has nothing to lose, he was a semi-decent player at best. clemens could be considered the GOAT
 

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