Rants from Phreezer

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Phreezer is Senior moderator at both mesoRX and Outlaw Muscle and is one of the strongest powerlifters and most knowledgeable guys on the boards as far as all aspects of anabolics and training are concerned. interesting posts...

RANT ONE:

I'm fed up... I've had it.. I just can't stomach all the fucking posers on this board who mead out advice like they actually know what the hell they are talking about. I've seen a lot of their pictures and most of em don't even look like they lift weights! I read the Anabolic section and more often than not I just have to shake my head at what I read.

I have seen so many posts by newbies asking to have their cycles critiqued, or asking what the best anabolic or most popular anabolic is. And from there I see guys just jumping out at them from nowhere recommending shitty cycle advise. And this isn't the minority here; it's the majority of posts in the anabolic forum! It makes me sick, and I'm fed up with it, and the other vets here are obviously fed up with it as well, because they don't answer questions that often anymore. It's so damn hard to answer a question in detail and from experience and then have some fuckhead jump in and post "Don't listen to him dude, I did a shot of sustanon every 13 days and I blew up".. What's the point of answering questions when you not only have to answer the same question over and over but you have to compete and argue and disprove the morons who hijack good solid information. It gets pretty damn tiring having to argue with someone every time you answer a question, and prove them wrong and the next guy wrong in the next thread you answer. So I think this must be why the vets don't answer that many questions any more... I know this because I see the majority of these newbie types of posts ending with the poster thanking some asshole for giving him hair brained advice.

Here's a news flash for you guys.... Anabolics are not the end all be all. They are certainly not where one needs to begin... and they are not to be used as short cuts for guys who have no discipline or a desire to stay in the gym for even one year consistently... TRAINING, TRAINING, TRAINING, DIET, DIET, DIET, these things come before anabolics. And when I say Diet, I'm not talking about eating every protein shake under the sun, or eating only skinless boneless chicken breasts, I'm talking about Garbage in, garbage out. If you are an ectomorph, you need to eat.. and you need to eat a lot! I'm talking no less than 3-4 thousand calories a day. And they don't have to all come from brocali and tuna.. EAT a fucking big Mac.. It won't hurt you every once in awhile, hell it won't hurt you a few times a week.. NOW, if you're a Endomorph.. Stay away from that BIG MAC! You still need to eat over 3 thousand calories a day, but you better eat em cleaner... Forget asking about a good cutter...what's the point if you are eating like shit anyway? and it all comes back within two or three weeks after your "Cutter cycle" is over.

Too many times I read posts here, and the first bit of advice offered is Anabolics and not TRAINING or Diet!!! WTF? This should never be the case.. Find out about a person.. What are their stats? What is their Age? What kind of experience do they have in the gym? What kind of anabolic history do they have? What would their goals form a cycle be?

More often than not, you'll learn that the guy is about 155lbs and his only cycle experience is a deca only cycle or some fucking dbol that he paid 10X the going price for... The answer with nearly every one of these newbie posts is TRAINING and OR DIET. Look, you know they aren't serious because of their training knowledge, more often than not these guys have been working out for a few months and they read Muscle and Fitness like it's a bible. That's all they know about training and diet... Fuck, half of these guys are doing dumbbell flyes and cable crossovers and don't even have a damn set of pecs to bring out striations in anyway... MOST of them think Flyes are mass builders!

Here's the honest truth for any newbie who is reading this...which won't be the case I'm sure, most newbies don't read anything..most just want everything handed to them because they are lazy, which is what this is about.. most of the guys receiving anabolic advice here won't even be working out in six months.. they just want instant gratification, and won't put in the work necessary.... anyway, THE honest truth.. THe pro's that you see in the magazines.. These guys have been working out for YEARS!! Not just one or two.. Ronnie Coleman has been working out consistently for TWO Decades! Most of these guys didn't try anabolics untill they were ready to start competing... When you are at that level of physical fitness, you won't need to ask about a deca only, you'll have been around long enough and researched long enough and have experience (GOD I HOPE SO) that you'll be educated already, and all you'll need is a little help fine tuning a cycle.

SO GUYS!!!!!!!!!

Stop handing out advice without finding out a little about someone first..and for God's sake! If they weigh less than a 175lbs and are no taller than 5'5" DON'T help them set up a cycle.. tell them to go to the training forum and the Nutrition forum!!!!

And one last thing.... If you don't honestly know the answer...Don't answer the question.
 
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Rant Two:

Rant Two:

Okay where to begin... I want to start off by saying that everyone needs to do research before they put any kind of substance into their bodies. Take the time to find out everything you can before you use something that can potentially harm you or be dangerous. AND FOR THE RECORD, Asking a question on a message board is NOT considered doing enough research.

There are a lot of people who claim to be experts on these type of boards. They give advice, they flame stupid questions etc. BUT, just because someone has a 1,000 posts and they offer advice doesn't mean that you should always take it. Myself included.

Look, I am not a Medical Doctor. I am simply a guy on an internet message board who happens to have some experience with what I'm talking about. I have some friends who also have some experience. We've spent some trying different approaches to certain ways of doing things. We spend some time looking over studies (Of which we have little more than a basic laymans understanding of) to help out knowledge. This does not mean that I am an expert and that my advice is always right or always concrete.

All I can share is my personal experience, and what little bit of knowledge that I've been able to obtain over the years. However, I am not a doctor. I do not even work in the medical field. Double check what ever advice I give you. Triple check it. Check out pubmed and medscape. Talk to different people and see what you can gather from them. Look up how drugs work. Half lifes, side effects, intended purpose, and physiological effects in the body. That is what doing research is...not just listening to a Mod or a Vet on an internet message board.

Honestly, do you really want to take the advice of a person you have never seen or actually talked to on the internet simply because he appears to know more than you?

People I do not know everything. Honestly what I do know pales in comparrison to many professionals. I know the basics. And I am quite capable of being wrong on things.

PLEASE, Please, do your research. Do not ever take the advice of some guy on the internet without double checking it. If not, you could end up with a nice set of breasts, on HRT for the rest of your life (because you need it) and possibly even worse.

This is not something for impatient people. If you are impaitent you are waisting your time, as in a year or two you won't even be lifting weights and you'll like you did before you started.

Sorry about the rant, but sometimes I hate to see people place to high a value on advice that is spooned out over the internet.. My own included.

Take care,

Phreezer
 
Sad but very true. Been it the game for a very long time & everyone seems to run for a cycle before checking out here diet. Also everyone want to mega load instead of starting out @ low doses.
 
I've been a member at OM for a long time now. I don't even bother going to the site any more for that very reason.
But I am a Mod at Isteroids (with close to 12,000 posts), which is a newb centered board.
Yes I answer the same question every day it seems like. But we have a good group of guys that will tell any idiot to shut up and listen to someone with more experience.
I can definately relate.
 
Phreezer has been around a long time and has a good handle on things. What pisses me off most is guys that should know better recommended huge dose cycles to guys with only a year or two training under their belt. Some cycles I've seen recommended shouldn't be suggested to anyone.
 
Thanks JB. I'll bet this is why most guys here stay to a couple good boards with guys that are a little older and have trained for decades.
 
ha... I used to be top poster at OM... fancy that.
Now... who is this Phreezer dude? :)
 
LOL, rants can be good!
No-one should juice until they can deadlift 350 and squat 425 for reps, period.
At least that's the way it was for me
and I didn't turn out so bad (just slow, cranky and verbose, but who's counting).
 
I've been a member at OM for a long time now. I don't even bother going to the site any more for that very reason.
But I am a Mod at Isteroids (with close to 12,000 posts), which is a newb centered board.
Yes I answer the same question every day it seems like. But we have a good group of guys that will tell any idiot to shut up and listen to someone with more experience.

I can definately relate.
i can attest to that buff...i too am on I-S and sometimes i may seem like coming off as an asshole but i get so sick of guys saying "i'm 22,165lbs,15% b/f and been training my ass off for 6 solid months.what can i take to get bigger?i've done a few solid cycles,dbol only,but want to only put on like 12.4338lbs of muscle and get my abs to pop out.what's good for that?"

instead of telling him bluntly to first pay your dues in the iron pile,eat like it's your last meal,eat some more,train harder,eat some more,train harder...then come back in 2-3yrs and ask us,we'll have guys that'll tell this kid "i'd stick with 500mg/wk of enth,100mg/ed drol and maybe some deca."that gets me irate.

i tell them flat out they've no business asking for aas advice.yet that is.learn how to grow,how to eat,how to train 1st before jumping into a box of pins and pills.

i had to learn by doing,failing,watching then finally reading off the internet,which i didn't have until about 4-5yrs ago for certain reasons.if a newb asks a serious question i'm the 1st to help with what i know or if not point him in the right direction to the ones that do.if they just wanna be Jersey Shore bods for 3-4months i got nothin for them...
 
Appreciate the advice! Rants heard and understood. You'ld probably scare off most newbies with this whole thread, but in my humble opinion it should be compulsory reading for all us "Newbies". I've been at the steel for years, just getting into anabolics; and have been doing research(for years) what my brain can withstand anyway. I can honestly say it's hard to know what advice to take, and what not to. My first question on here got me opposing answeres, but Glycomann backed up his shit with medical support/references, so I know he's for real( thanx again Glycomann). Most writeups/ad's state their drug is going to make you "HUGE". At least these rants lets me know who gives a damn, and who don't. Thanx Guys. Some of us "Newbies" listen. Now I gotta run-reading to do. ;-)
 
Forget the reading, go grab two 35lb dumbbells and do 10x10 curls with each arm, then write down where you are sore the next two days, then you will have gained the magical "Muscle Memory" connection everyone is referring to in their posts about anaboliks.
 
Appreciate the advice! Rants heard and understood. You'ld probably scare off most newbies with this whole thread, but in my humble opinion it should be compulsory reading for all us "Newbies". I've been at the steel for years, just getting into anabolics; and have been doing research(for years) what my brain can withstand anyway. I can honestly say it's hard to know what advice to take, and what not to. My first question on here got me opposing answeres, but Glycomann backed up his shit with medical support/references, so I know he's for real( thanx again Glycomann). Most writeups/ad's state their drug is going to make you "HUGE". At least these rants lets me know who gives a damn, and who don't. Thanx Guys. Some of us "Newbies" listen. Now I gotta run-reading to do. ;-)

You can't go wrong with Glyco or any of the Vets on this forum. The guys here are mainly older guys that know from experience what works and doesn't.
 
Forget the reading, go grab two 35lb dumbbells and do 10x10 curls with each arm, then write down where you are sore the next two days, then you will have gained the magical "Muscle Memory" connection everyone is referring to in their posts about anaboliks.

Huh? :confused: Muscle memory is how the muscle that was once developed responds much faster after a layoff to get back to that previous development as opposed to if it was never developed in the first place. Perhaps you are referring to the "mind & muscle" connection.
 
Phreezers posts are solid info that most vets should know handily. Funny how he indicated about the scarecrows giving advice, which is laughable. Thats one of the reasons I called out juicers here thats never posted pics here before to post up - still see many have yet to do so. :rolleyes: :wackit:
 
phreezer and I have modded at meso together...he is a good dude..and I myself have posted rants...I do agree with all the BS advice given out on some boards....but thats why I stick to the good ole boards with guys like Lifts, john benz, basskiller and the like who have been around as long as I have and know their shit...
 

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