A man's workout, boys need not apply!

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I did 10 sets today while this 20-something sat on a bench and managed 2! Normally I don't pay attention to other lifters, but he was sitting on the adjustable bench I wanted to use.
Anyway, with the kids in the wait, I managed this superset workout of 40 sets in 35 minutes.
SS-1
Incline bench/45 degree front lat pulldown 5x5 each
SS-2
Flat bench/bent row (using only 25lb olympic plates to get lower to the ground) 5x5 each
SS-3
Decline bench/T-bar row 5x5 each
SS-4
Curl-press-fly/wide grip behind neck pulldown 5x5 each
The curl-press-fly is a compound movement using an incline bench.
Usually I change the angle for each set, but that bench was "in use!"

Curl-press-fly
I start at the bottom with the dumbbells pronated all the way out.
I rotate my wrists in then out while curling to the shoulder, then I press the d-bells overhead, then go into a wide fly, back to the top, then back down into the supinated position.

I started this because of my arm and neck injury.
I wanted my weight to be determined by my weaklest movement in the series.
Today I used 45lb d-bells.
I really get a great bicep/shoulder/chest workout and it definately shows.
Most times I do 10x10 but with the girls getting antsy I stayed with 5x5.

In and out in 35 minutes, great pump, feel like a million bucks, BAM, let's go to lunch.
 
Forty sets in 35 minutes? :eek: Sorry bro - I don't kick the iron for cardio effect! :p I enjoy my recup time between sets to pile on the poundage. :D
 
Same here but I usally do the Bosshogg program which is mainly all heavy compund moves, Push days/Pull days but I can do them all in 40 minutes, Although my push days take a little longer due to the bad knees but still I don't take more than 1 minute between sets..
 
Freezerdude said:
Same here but I usally do the Bosshogg program which is mainly all heavy compund moves, Push days/Pull days but I can do them all in 40 minutes, Although my push days take a little longer due to the bad knees but still I don't take more than 1 minute between sets..
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How can you be going "heavy" with only 1 minute rest between sets bro? :confused: I mean I know "heavy" is relative, but obviously you could use much more weight if you rested more to recup. Hey, different strokes, different folks hehe. :) I'm just sayin' that how fast one completes a workout has absolutely NOTHING to do of how intense that workout is. I can knockout a shitload of push ups in short time and get a helluva pump, but I damn sure ain't gonna grow from it.lol :p
 
Dawgpound_Hank said:
How can you be going "heavy" with only 1 minute rest between sets bro? :confused: I mean I know "heavy" is relative, but obviously you could use much more weight if you rested more to recup. Hey, different strokes, different folks hehe. :) I'm just sayin' that how fast one completes a workout has absolutely NOTHING to do of how intense that workout is. I can knockout a shitload of push ups in short time and get a helluva pump, but I damn sure ain't gonna grow from it.lol :p
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Well Bro obviously it's going to depend on the movement your doing like deads would need more like 5 mins here's a small insert from Bosses program both programs are on Nutnuts site this one and the " Finale Version" keepingin mind this is for the advance user not for newbys..

"Like I said, I want someone
resting ''about'' 1 minute in between each set, unless its squats or
deads, then 3 to 5 minutes are in order. Now as far as the time goes
between each bodypart, I want someone taking ''about'' 5 minutes. So
after your Chest movement, take 5 minutes and just relax or start
getting your Triceps movement ready to go. This is very important you
take this time to regain as much energy as possible so you can give
everything you have for that upcoming bodypart. Remember, your only
doing 4 sets for each main bodypart, so I want absolute maximum
intensity here. When your giving everything you have and each rep is
life or death, then your going to be cheating yourself when it comes
to the following bodypart if your not well rested. Forget all that
business of jumping from one movement to the next at record pace. That
whole idea of ''Well you got to keep your heart rate up...'' is
bullcrap. You want your heart rate up then do your cardio, we are not
talking cardio here.........we are talking about getting as massive as
possible, and to do that we need as much energy as we can get."

You guys really should check out this program it will flat put the size on you..
 
Freezer I hear ya bro...that was the first exercises that came to mind when I was thinking of only 1 minute rest - squats and deads haha. What he says here is solid & so true...

"When your giving everything you have and each rep is
life or death, then your going to be cheating yourself when it comes
to the following bodypart if your not well rested. Forget all that
business of jumping from one movement to the next at record pace. That
whole idea of ''Well you got to keep your heart rate up...'' is
bullcrap. You want your heart rate up then do your cardio, we are not
talking cardio here.........we are talking about getting as massive as
possible, and to do that we need as much energy as we can get."

I've been advising the same for years. Actually, the "exact 1 minute" rest I disagree with...I can't put a constant on it. One should rest until they are recovered enough to put maximum effort into the work-set using the heaviest weight possible for given reps to try to progress from their last workout, be it 1 more rep or 5 more pounds.

Just my take :)
 
Not only different exercises require different amounts of recoup sometimes a different set of the same exercise requires more recoup time. A good rule is if you feel that you may not have rested long enough between sets take another minute or two.
 
liftsiron said:
Not only different exercises require different amounts of recoup sometimes a different set of the same exercise requires more recoup time. A good rule is if you feel that you may not have rested long enough between sets take another minute or two.
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Thtat's exactly right especially with me like squats or deads for you guys would require less recoup time than it would me with the bad knees and some days they are even out of the question. I try to stick to his protocol as closely as possibly but things are different for everyone. especially if you have a prosthetic knee.. lol
 
I've been resting about 2-3 min between sets on average. This is about how long it takes phosphagen to recover with most movements. I'll take 5 for squat/dead everything else is 2-3.

how fast one completes a workout has absolutely NOTHING to do of how intense that workout is
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I have to disagree, if you take a routine using the same weight and rep range and complete it in 40 minutes vs 60, their will be an intensity difference. Their are other factors besides intensity that matter but the time in which it takes to move weight x from point a to point b defines intensity. Same goes for cardio, if running at 90% MHR you will finish quicker than running at 60% MHR.
 
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Recovery time tends to increase with age in my belief..right now it takes me nearly 2 minutes to recover between sets, especially on high volume exercises of low weight high reps
 
nutnut said:
I have to disagree, if you take a routine using the same weight and rep range and complete it in 40 minutes vs 60, their will be an intensity difference. Their are other factors besides intensity that matter but the time in which it takes to move weight x from point a to point b defines intensity. Same goes for cardio, if running at 90% MHR you will finish quicker than running at 60% MHR.
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You are 100% correct - I worded that wrong to make a point that how fast a workout is completed is not of utmost importance when considering other, more important variables. I SHOULD have said that how fast one completes a workout IN OF ITSELF means nothing.

Allowing enough recovery time is key to busting ass on the next set, and obviously that amount of time will vary depending on the individual, the exercise, energy level, mood, climate, etc etc. And when I say "busting ass", I don't mean light weights & cardio paced - I'm speaking in terms of building alot of muscle. Simply put, one can't use heavy enuff weights to epitomize building muscle if they are resting so briefly. Sure, they might build some muscle, but far from what they could be building had they rested longer to recup. :)
 
You big fuckers are all the same, Hank. Under the impression that we all train to look like you. I only ever rest 1 to 1.5 minutes beween sets, however the look I am going for is quite different from the look you're are trying to attain, or have attained I should say, you big lucious slab of man meat.

I hate cardio, so I find this is the most effective way to kill two birds with one stone. And I personally think I'm pretty hot. All the bitches are always like, "hey, you're pretty hot". And I'm like "yeah, I know bitch...now make me a sandwich". Any way, I'm going off track here. The point is our training should directly reflect our goals, and of course, what works well for one, does not necessarily work well for another. So please, Hank, get off your high horse. You egotistical self-centered prick.

:flipoffha
 
P. Bateman said:
You big fuckers are all the same, Hank. Under the impression that we all train to look like you. I only ever rest 1 to 1.5 minutes beween sets, however the look I am going for is quite different from the look you're are trying to attain, or have attained I should say, you big lucious slab of man meat.

I hate cardio, so I find this is the most effective way to kill two birds with one stone. And I personally think I'm pretty hot. All the bitches are always like, "hey, you're pretty hot". And I'm like "yeah, I know bitch...now make me a sandwich". Any way, I'm going off track here. The point is our training should directly reflect our goals, and of course, what works well for one, does not necessarily work well for another. So please, Hank, get off your high horse. You egotistical self-centered prick.

:flipoffha
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Bump! That's exactly what SHINE told me, it's like doing cardio while lifting! :yesway:
 
nutnut said:
Yup, not the best of either world, sub-optimal results in both areas.
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It's funny that you would say that. If one were to look at sport specific training -you know, the type of training athletes use- then one could only conclude that that type of high intensity interval type training would in fact provide optimal results. It's closed minded trains of thought, that impose a specific structure of training on everyone and then are surprised when the results turn out to be "sub-optimal".

Aside from that I resent the implication, nutnut.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go put some bitches to the sword.
 
I actually have a protocol I call farmboy training, but I don't claim it's optimal for strength gains nor is it exactly like the OP. I don't think you understood my comment and took personal offense to it. As for sport specific training, they are training to improve skills in their specific sport they are not at that time training for optimal strength which is usually a separate workout, I know this as I work with athletes of all levels. I am not imposing a one size fits all training style and anyone whom knows me or took any time to do a little research would know that.

I'm far from closed minded but it's rather obvious that interval training is much more cardio/endurance than strength and although sub optimal for both may have been a little harsh, sub optimal for strength is clear. I see optimal cardio at 90% MHR intervals, I can't say he wasn't doing that so I stand corrected on that aspect and apologize but I stand by sub optimal for strength or size gains.
 
When I was 33, I could squat 450 for 6 on my 12th set. Actually did it once a week for six months.
I weighed 215 then, wasn't married, and didn't have children or a house. I rested 2 minutes between sets and didn't feel the crunch of time.
Now I'm 52, have a house, children (who wait in the kids room while I train, impatiently) and multiple injuries which I've picked up over time. My heart doesn't work as well as then, plus I've found my metabolism is slower.
Three weeks before I got stabbed in the forearm (Dec 2009), I pulled 365 on the hammer strength pulldown machine. I rested a minute between sets. I've only managed 165 for 6 since then, and consider myself lucky to be training at all.
I weighed over 245 for 10 years, then dieted down to 220 two years ago. I no longer take heart medicine, my blood pressure is down to 125/84, and feel maybe I can live long enough to see my 5 year old graduate college.
My days of sitting around the gym for two hours just to do 50 sets are long gone. Good luck to you.
 
nutnut said:
I actually have a protocol I call farmboy training, but I don't claim it's optimal for strength gains nor is it exactly like the OP. I don't think you understood my comment and took personal offense to it. As for sport specific training, they are training to improve skills in their specific sport they are not at that time training for optimal strength which is usually a separate workout, I know this as I work with athletes of all levels. I am not imposing a one size fits all training style and anyone whom knows me or took any time to do a little research would know that.

I'm far from closed minded but it's rather obvious that interval training is much more cardio/endurance than strength and although sub optimal for both may have been a little harsh, sub optimal for strength is clear. I see optimal cardio at 90% MHR intervals, I can't say he wasn't doing that so I stand corrected on that aspect and apologize but I stand by sub optimal for strength or size gains.
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Ask anyone nut, I'm just a sensitve pussy.

No, I agree, for strength, interval training is not the most optimal form of training. But when one has time constraints, like so many of us do, interval training is very beneficial. For some of us it's either interval training, or no training at all.

Now please, I'm trying to finish my mozza-burger and french fries, going to wash it down with a big ol' cup of diet cola. Ain't that a friggin' laugh.
 
to each there own, I am that of doing a variety, Ill do a day crossfit, 3 days heavy, and interval. always changing it up. right now Im just maintaining and not doing any goal specific training.
 
Pussy Bateman, go make me a sandwich already will ya...don't forget to rest 1 minute first! :D
 
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