Like your guns, better not vote Obongo

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By this time, I am sure everyone already has their mind made up for who they will vote for, but in case anyone still hasn't decided, here is a list of what Obongo and Biden have and have not vote for. Never mind their socialist policies, but both of these idiots have voted against gun rights and against personal protection. Yeah, a real good couple to vote for the highest offices of the land. :flamingma:flamingma
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my point is if mccain died she would be our president. LOL. making all the important decisions even if its for a month or whatever.

And I will take obamas "experience" over the risk of palin becoming a president.
 
why cause he wants to raise the taxes on rich and lower it for the poor. he is a marxist.. ? if so no it doesnt.
 
why cause he wants to raise the taxes on rich and lower it for the poor. he is a marxist.. ? if so no it doesnt.

More like because he admitted to wanting to 'spread the wealth around' AKA take from the rich/successful/whatever you want to categorize them as and give to those who aren't. That's socialism. Taking more from the successful in order to try to balance the nations average income is socialism.
 
More like because he admitted to wanting to 'spread the wealth around' AKA take from the rich/successful/whatever you want to categorize them as and give to those who aren't. That's socialism. Taking more from the successful in order to try to balance the nations average income is socialism.


true and the only way he can do that is by taxes.. I dont mind that. I mean how much does an individual really need to live lavishly.. 100,000 ,,,,. 200 000 .
 
Who are you to say how a person lives? You cannot possibly justify taking from those who have worked hard to attain what they have and just give it to those who don't, that's crazy. That's communism. Bigger Government, controls what you have( as not to have a little more then the next person), takes your guns away so you cannot fight back. This is your Obongo presidency. The only way I can see a person supporting such nonsense is you must be one of the ones who doesn't have much as are waiting for the government to take from those who do have and give it to you.
 
is he taking it away from the rich and giving it to the poor?? ARE the taxes from the rich going into the hands of the poor directly.. I dont think so..

If I ever earned more than 300 K I would be more than willing to give it away.. besides the little i need for myself

AND you are right i am one of those persons taht doesnt have much.. BUT I am not waiting for the government to give it to me.. Cause i am not so unfortunate either. But there are many that truly need it.

For example, if there was a poor family with a child suffering from illness, the medications for which the parents cannot afford, but the child needs it badly. How can you look into a parents eye and say, i am sorry you are poor its not my fault. Bring the money or your childs gonna be left sick. The medication probaly cost only 1000 USD. A trivial amount for someone making 300 K a year.. BUT quiet a bit for someone making 20 K a year. You think that person making 300 K , or anyone would say no to helping that child. I highly doubt it.

AND you are right.. everyone should judge for themselves about hot to live their life. I nor the president are one to say.

but YOu are a human before u are a millionaire. If one person can change the lives, and help maybe 100 person in his whole life existence, this world would be a much better place.


So my question to you is allo?? would you help a family that needs a 1000 dollars worth of medication if you are making 100K a year? Taxes are not much difference. They are going to help the poor. People that do need it. True some of it may go into hands of lazy people, people taht can easily get a job but are still enjoying unemployment, etc. but does that justify not helping the MAjority of the people taht do truly need it.


When i think of socialism i think of a country where everyone makes t he same amount of money. So everyone makes 50 000. or 25 000. CAlling this country a socialist country would be a bit of an exaggeration.
 
So my question to you is allo?? would you help a family that needs a 1000 dollars worth of medication if you are making 100K a year? Taxes are not much difference. They are going to help the poor. People that do need it. True some of it may go into hands of lazy people, people taht can easily get a job but are still enjoying unemployment, etc. but does that justify not helping the MAjority of the people taht do truly need it.

The problem with this analogy is that, in the case of your question, you are allowing someone with that means to make a choice. In the actual case, taxpayers don't have a choice. You pay your taxes or the IRS will be up your ass for a long time. I'm not cold hearted and I doubt ALLO is either. It's just like you said, some or a lot of that taxpayer money ends up going to people who just exploit the system. They feel like they are owed something by society and that shouldn't be the case.

Maybe it's just the way I was brought up, but to me, no one ever owes you a damn thing. If you want something, you gotta put the work in and get it yourself.
 
True.. its about choice. But how feasible is it to go asking people for donations?? for every poor person that needs help

Besides TAX also goes to lots of other things such as infrastructure, security etc. . That make USA what it is. I know its hard to value USA unless you havent lived in it for a few years. BUT man believe me, even with the condition it is in right now AMERICA is one of theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee best country. EVEn with all the extra laws, financial breakdown, roids being illegal.. there is no country that comes close to America.

You may not think you owe nething to USA, but spend two years in a third world country and you will realize how lucky you are to be born in United States.

Obviously the above doesnt apply if you are filthy rich cause then you can have an awesome time living anywhere. But for an average middle class family there is no country that comes close to living a peaceful life like USA. (maybe other countries like UK australia are similar but i have never been to them.)

PS I bitch about taxes just like you guys do when it comes time for paying them. . LOl. but man am i glad to be living in USA.
 
if it comes down to it..just buy them illegally. Most of the fun guns are illegal anyway lol
 
socialism = bad. spreading wealth kills productivity. what's the point of going to college and getting a tech degree and then get all ur money stolen, when you can just lounge around and get payed because those bastards who work their asses off and make 300,000 a year owe it to you! nope. their money.

in the same terms. you have an xbox 360. you have 10 games i only have 2. well guess what that's not fair!!! you owe me 3 games. and you dont give it to me, you are forced to give them to me.

dont make much sense does it. neither does socialism, neither does obama... and well... neither does mccain really.

down with the democratic process, it's too corrupt. that's why every election year we have to vote between a douche bag and a turd sandwich. Arent we all sick of voting for the lesser of the 2 evils. whatever happend to a little thing called integrity??? it's time for a REPUBLIC. look it up fellas
 
I simply have too many questions in my mind about Obama and his true underlying ideals and motives.

McCain has his issues too but overall, I believe that McCain will do more for our nation in the long run than Obama.
 

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