punched in the face

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My seven year-old daughter punched me in the face today because I wouldn't buy her a toy?
Can you believe that?
I've never hit her once, not even a swat.
 
spankings are underrated, don't be afraid to discipline with them.
 
See all that bullshit you hear about, "all hitting your kids does is teaches them to hit" is just that, BULLSHIT!!!! No it teaches them to listen. I would have put her accross my knee and spanked the shit out of her. I know it's hard to do as a father but sometimes it must be done. I watch these Nanny 911 and Super Nanny shows and cringe at what parents let their kids get away with. Nothing a good beating wouldn't solve. :D
 
I would spank her, then break all of her toys in front of her.
 
Seriously mrhtdb, I am interested to know what, if anything, you did to deter this behavior in the future.
 
used to get my ass wooped so should she. i turned out just fine
 
See all that bullshit you hear about, "all hitting your kids does is teaches them to hit" is just that, BULLSHIT!!!! No it teaches them to listen. I would have put her accross my knee and spanked the shit out of her. I know it's hard to do as a father but sometimes it must be done. I watch these Nanny 911 and Super Nanny shows and cringe at what parents let their kids get away with. Nothing a good beating wouldn't solve. :D

Exactly..
Funny how giving beatings to kids is evil and barbaric thing of the past but the kids are getting worse and worse...
 
mrhtbd you're a good man. I stopped spanking my 10 year old daughter when she was 7 and after what I thought was a pretty good whippin she turned around and screamed at me, "That didn't hurt, just made me mad!!"

She's about as spoiled as your daughter, but would never actually hit me in the face. She did embarrass me at age 7 by getting down on her knees in Wal-Mart one time begging for a Bratz doll and after 2 old ladies joked around and said, "Buy the little girl a doll, you meanie," I bought it. At checkout, the cashier said, "You must have been a real good girl," Sarah replied, "Not really. Just spoiled rotten and I have my dad wrapped around my little finger."

I know I should be stricter at times, but her mom and I divorced when she was 3, and I just don't have it in me to physically punish her. Anyone can give advice, but if you aren't raising a precocious 7 year old daughter, you don't really have a clue. Sarah's very affectionate and will talk your ear off, and the silent treatment is the most effective punishment I've found so far. After about 15 minutes she's ready to apologize and straighten up.
 
mrhtbd you're a good man. I stopped spanking my 10 year old daughter when she was 7 and after what I thought was a pretty good whippin she turned around and screamed at me, "That didn't hurt, just made me mad!!"

She's about as spoiled as your daughter, but would never actually hit me in the face. She did embarrass me at age 7 by getting down on her knees in Wal-Mart one time begging for a Bratz doll and after 2 old ladies joked around and said, "Buy the little girl a doll, you meanie," I bought it. At checkout, the cashier said, "You must have been a real good girl," Sarah replied, "Not really. Just spoiled rotten and I have my dad wrapped around my little finger."

I know I should be stricter at times, but her mom and I divorced when she was 3, and I just don't have it in me to physically punish her. Anyone can give advice, but if you aren't raising a precocious 7 year old daughter, you don't really have a clue. Sarah's very affectionate and will talk your ear off, and the silent treatment is the most effective punishment I've found so far. After about 15 minutes she's ready to apologize and straighten up.

Yeah that makes a lot of sense to not discipline a child. You only have a short amount of time to do this or you'll lose control for the rest of their time with you.
Time & time again you will see this repeating pattern; A parent that doesn't discipline their children = an abusing disrespectful teenager turning into an adult who expects things handed to them.
In many ways it can be as bad as over-correcting.
Reality is, both extremes are a forms of abuse. Likewise both yield dysfunctional children who turn into socially inept adults.

The disservice you do to yourself is only outdone by the one done to your child.
It is not funny or cute and there will come a day you will regret treating it as such.
 
Yeah that makes a lot of sense to not discipline a child. You only have a short amount of time to do this or you'll lose control for the rest of their time with you.
Time & time again you will see this repeating pattern; A parent that doesn't discipline their children = an abusing disrespectful teenager turning into an adult who expects things handed to them.
In many ways it can be as bad as over-correcting.
Reality is, both extremes are a forms of abuse. Likewise both yield dysfunctional children who turn into socially inept adults.

The disservice you do to yourself is only outdone by the one done to your child.
It is not funny or cute and there will come a day you will regret treating it as such.
She gets plenty of discipline and does what she's told. I don't have to physically punish here to make her obey.
 
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me personally I would have just firmly grabbed her arms and explained to her, that hitting people is only for defending yourself or others, not for getting what you want.

my parents raised me and spanked me now and then, a few times I think they went a bit too far but they had it way worse than I ever did, taught me a lot. I never would have swung at my parents, they ruled with a firm hand, but were gentle with me as well.
 
She gets plenty of discipline and does what she's told. I don't have to physically punish here to make her obey.

BTW...It'll be a cold day in hell when I take advice from a moron with the inbred hillbilly mentality it takes to wear a tank-top to a Thanksgiving dinner. My guess is you didn't get enough whippins as a kid. :D

No sir, I was on the other end of the spectrum of abuse, I got beatings I didn't deserve. Some of the times I needed my ass whipped (just like I think you need right now) and other times it was just uncalled for. Abuse comes in many forms.

I watched my uncle beat my cousins till they bled.
I hated one of the boys and even I cried for him as a child. My uncle was an extreme abuser. His son of a bitch son grew up to murder my brother.
That particular cousin was never worth a fuck and I attribute the beatings for about 75% of his worthlessness. His whore mother was the other 25%.
My aunt and uncle bought them things to make up for how the father severely beat them.

My wife's father used to give her the silent treatments. It turned into an obsession any time he was displeased with her. It was a form of abuse. Less painful but often the silent treatment leaves the child guessing what it is they exactly did wrong. This is a foolhardy way to punish a child(although I can understand a small amount of displeasure being shown this way). You do what you think is best.
 
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Seriously mrhtdb, I am interested to know what, if anything, you did to deter this behavior in the future.

I was trying to get her seatbelt buckled when she belted me. I grabbed her clothes (shirt and jacket) lifted them up to her throat and said, "Don't you ever hit me in the face again, understand?" As I got into the car, I told her that her behavior was totally unacceptable and that she was cut off from any and all spending. I told her I refused to go to any store with her for at least a month, then I gave her the silent treatment for the rest of the day.

What can I say. The real issue was my wife's mother slapped my daughter in the face last summer, so the precedent of abuse was started.
I grew up in an orphanage (11 years) and was beaten dozens of time for nothing. For instance, once I picked a big apple then couldn't finish it (3rd grade) I got 8 swats for that.

Besides, the wife likes to manipulate things. Getting me to beat the child would set up a pattern of abuse. Something I'm sure she would use to her best advantage when the time is right.
 
I was trying to get her seatbelt bucked when she belted me. I grabbed her clothes (shirt and jacket) lifted them up to her throat and said, "Don't you ever hit me in the face again, understand?" As I got into the car, I told her that her behavior was totally unacceptable and that she was cut off from any and all spending. I told her I refused to go to any store with her for at least a month, then I gave her the silent treatment for the rest of the day.

What can I say. The real issue was my wife's mother slapped my daughter in the face last summer, so the precedent of abuse was started.
I grew up in an orphanage (11 years) and was beaten dozens of time for nothing. For instance, once I picked a big apple then couldn't finish it (3rd grade) I got 8 swats for that.

Besides, the wife likes to manipulate things. Getting me to beat the child would set up a pattern of abuse. Something I'm sure she would use to her best advantage when the time is right.

Prior to this, what type of discipline did you use?
If you let her go up to the current point in time, then she pulls a stunt like this, what did you expect?
Maybe you whipped her before or maybe some other form of discipline. It just seems hard to believe that a child of that age would be that bold and that type of behavior was the first.
It seems she obviously had no fear of repercussions. Maybe she felt lucky because she knew you didn't have the power to do anything about it?
It's a bitch having your authority undermined though. You just gotta keep your cool and find what works.
 
I was trying to get her seatbelt bucked when she belted me. I grabbed her clothes (shirt and jacket) lifted them up to her throat and said, "Don't you ever hit me in the face again, understand?" As I got into the car, I told her that her behavior was totally unacceptable and that she was cut off from any and all spending. I told her I refused to go to any store with her for at least a month, then I gave her the silent treatment for the rest of the day.

Thanks, it just sounded like the behavior went unpunished, and that would have been a big mistake. My wife has joint custody of her 11 and 7 year old, so they are at our house every-other week, and I have an objective enough vantage point to see how they sense the guilt their mother feels about putting them through a divorce and joint custody and they use it to their full advantage. The kids know she never carries through with her threats, and if they throw enough tantrums or argue with her enough, she will eventually give in. Kids are smart, and they learn boundaries quickly. I only have to tell them to do something or not do something once, and they listen to me b/c they know I mean it; their mother can tell them something 5 times and they completely ignore her b/c they know they will get away with it. I try to explain to her that the reason they talk back to her and do not listen to her is b/c there are no consequenses and they know what they can get away with. It usually just leads to an argument between us b/c she says I think I'm always right (I usually am), and that if I had my own kids it would be different. That's BS - I remember how I raised, and I knew the consequences for talking back or not listening, and it has made me a better person, and looking back I am so glad that's the way my parents brought me up.

At the end of the day they are the kids and you are the parent, and what you say goes. You shouldn't have to explain why you are telling them to do something or debate with them! And you damn sure shouldn't let them talk back or ask "why" everytime you tell them to do something - the answer should always be "b/c I'm your parent and I said so, and don't you ever ask why again when I tell you to do something!"
 
She started again with the mouth today, and when she said, "I'm going to kick you in the shin," that was it, I put her over my knee and smacked her behind five times. She went screaming to her room, slamming doors and such. I followed her then gave her a quick two cents. Later she calmed down and we read two books together. I told her we're going to function on a caught-you-being-good merit system. She earns a certain amount of merits and gets a prize, toy, privelege, etc. Later she threw another fit and I started docking her merits, at the closing bell she owes me five.
Tomorrow, I will work on the specifics of the plan, but for now, both my wife and I agree we can't unleash her onto society without her taking accountability for her actions.
Thanks for your help.
 
She started again with the mouth today, and when she said, "I'm going to kick you in the shin," that was it, I put her over my knee and smacked her behind five times. She went screaming to her room, slamming doors and such. I followed her then gave her a quick two cents. Later she calmed down and we read two books together. I told her we're going to function on a caught-you-being-good merit system. She earns a certain amount of merits and gets a prize, toy, privelege, etc. Later she threw another fit and I started docking her merits, at the closing bell she owes me five.
Tomorrow, I will work on the specifics of the plan, but for now, both my wife and I agree we can't unleash her onto society without her taking accountability for her actions.
Thanks for your help.

I would think honestly about NOT rewarding here for normal behavior. I would use a system of taking away things.
The spanking was really good. But if you don't break a child's will it seems to make them worse.
And by "will" I mean they cry. They feel like they've won. For most kids it doesn't take a beating to make break their will/cry. Just firm discipline that exposes their mistake and the repercussion of it.

I know it's tough . But I think you've made this bed you have to lay in. Still better late than never.

With my first little girl who I hadn't been around until she was 4 y/o it was especially hard. I had the grandmother who had custody of her, due to the murder of the child's mom, sabotaging me at every turn.
She told me she hated me daily. Said I abandoned her and that I hated her mom. On & on repeating what her despicable grandmother told her because she didn't want her to become close to me(as bad as I hated that old bitch, I never said it in front of my daughter.. IMO it is one of the worst things you can do).

She gave me the usual of how she didn't have to mind me. She was beyond her years in intelligence so I had to deliver discipline that corresponded.
I told her, " You will not tell me you hate me. You may think it. But you will not say it. You will not tell me 'no'. Whether you see me as your father or not doesn't matter. If you are with me, you will mind me. If you do not mind, I may warn you once, maybe even twice. After that I will either spank your bottom or make you stand in the corner or both."
This was after several incidents . I didn't want to spank her because I wanted to be close to her.
Things didn't get better until I did just exactly as I told her I would.
When she told me I wasn't her dad just her biological father and she hated me, I swatted her butt. She did it again, same thing. She cried and said it again . I let her know she I had time to give her whippins all day if that's what she wanted. Then I stood her in the corner. She said she wouldn't stand in the corner.. she got more of the same.
Finally she begin sobbing and said she knew I didn't love her and she knew I hated her too.
Thing is she was hugging me and then she told me she loved me and was sorry. And for a little while things went well. Not that she didn't need corrected. But the old' evil tyrants sabotage sessions kicked back in and there was always the pre-day undoings to contend with.

So I know it's a bitch but if you don't get a handle on her behavior now, never wavering from your duty as a parent, you damn sure won't once she becomes a teenager!

Anyhow., you have to be consistent. It's best if you can show displeasure with out anger. It's harder to do than say. But it's much better.
I firmly believe you shouldn't whip a kid when your really angry at them.
 
She started again with the mouth today, and when she said, "I'm going to kick you in the shin," that was it, I put her over my knee and smacked her behind five times. She went screaming to her room, slamming doors and such. I followed her then gave her a quick two cents. Later she calmed down and we read two books together. I told her we're going to function on a caught-you-being-good merit system. She earns a certain amount of merits and gets a prize, toy, privelege, etc. Later she threw another fit and I started docking her merits, at the closing bell she owes me five.
Tomorrow, I will work on the specifics of the plan, but for now, both my wife and I agree we can't unleash her onto society without her taking accountability for her actions.
Thanks for your help.

sounds great nice work
 
She started again with the mouth today, and when she said, "I'm going to kick you in the shin," that was it, I put her over my knee and smacked her behind five times.

this is far from a beating bro, you did some great work here as it sounds like she is getting the big picture.
 

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