question fro glycoman

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Hey there,

I saw this statement of yours in a PCT post here on A-E

"I did TRT for 2 years and got to the point where I always had water retention and felt a little lethargic all the time."

I have felt the same way for a while now and I had bumped up my test dosage to deal with it. (I wrote about that in a different thread regarding E control in TRT) anyway..

I read further that you stay on for 8 and off for 3 months and use HCG and clomid for recovery/hormonal balance..do you mind sharing your current protocol?

I'm interested in finding a way to keep my body healthy, energy and libido up, fat down and E in control...

thanks in advance

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i don't know if there is a protocol that works for everyone. one that I used for a couple years until recently is as follows

1-8 Test C 200-300 mg/w
1-8 secondary anabolic 300-500 mg/w
1-8 Exemastane 25 mg/d
1-8 GHRP-2 150 ug/d
1-8 hCG 250-500 iu ETD

9-11 Clomid 25-50 mg/d
9-11 hCG 250 iu once a week

repeat AAS part twice and clomid burst part once more. Then i take at least 8 weeks off but I recover well so different from someone who is hypogonadal. And this is really light cycling and not TRT. Sometimes I add in an oral as well. Strict TRT would be a little different. guys that have problems like water retention and high red cells need a little time off or have their dose titrated better so those problems don't occur or add in an aromatase inhibitor. also, some become pregnenolone deficient due to testes shut down so adding in pregnenolone or hCG helps a lot. I've done something like this;

1-8 Test C 200 mg/w
1-8 Exemastane 25 mg/d or Arimidex 0.5 mg/eod
1-8 hCG 250 iu 2 days and 1 day before test injection
1-8 GHRP-2 150 ug morning and night

1-3 off everything or 25 mg/d Clomid or 20 mg/d Nolvadex
1-3 GHRP-2 150 ug morning and night

repeat
 
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thank you....I'm sure every body is different...I'm trying to educate myself on the many methods intelligent folks use to deal with issues that I too deal with.. In the end I hope to have a plan that works for me...it's a step by step walk though as I'm sure you know...

I use HCG now but not as regularily as I should be...I'll look into the other items you listed as well.

Again, thank you for the information. its much appreciated.
 
GHRP-2 is a secretagogue. It tell the pituitary to secrete a bit of GH. it's a temporary spike but it seems to help some people recover from training, get better sleep, and helps lean out when eating a good clean diet. Timing is very important. Before bed on an empty stomach works well for me. You can have some protein with it or wait 1/2 hour after shot and eat a regular meal. I only do the meal after a morning dose.
 
have you seen any libido dropping effects from the Exemastane as I've read can happen with adex or any AI that drops E too low..
 
Libido will indeed go away if estro drops too low, which is why you start out with a low conservative dose that just moderates the estro instead of destroys it all.
 
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