Young guys never coming off

Dawgpound_Hank

Dawgpound_Hank

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I tell ya man, times have a changed. I know 3 young fellas at the gym. One is 20, 6'7 & 285 lbs. One is 22, 5'10 & 220. The other is 28, 5'7 & 220. They all have experience lifting & have decent builds. They come to me often asking Q's about this, that & the other thing regarding lifting, diet, and of course, GEAR. Every one of them never come off. They cruise between cycles, The tall guy told me today that he cruises on 300mg test ew. The other young guy says he runs 150mg ew of test between cycles. The oldest "cruises" on 500mg ew of test. :eek:

Every time the topic comes up, I tell these dudes that they are far too young to be doing this shit, and that they NEED to come off between cycles, running a solid PCT, then staying off for at LEAST as long as their cycle was AFTER pct. Same response "I know Hank, I know man, you're right. Ima do that after next cycle" pffftttt. :at:

I try telling them that they need to let their damn insides heal up - give the kidneys & liver a break, let their lipids normalize, etc etc. I guess I can't say I'm shocked being the generation in this era seems to be "I want it NOW", and don't wanna play this game as it should be played regarding health. It's a pity, bcoz all 3 of these dudes are good guys, ya know? I hate to see them fucking up their health long term. I guess at that age, ya don't give a rats ass and think your superman and not vulnerable to anything. I'm damn sure glad I didn't come to the dark-side until 40, with 26 years in lifting natty. I might not be alive today had I did what they are doing at their age, who knows.

Anyways, just a rant. I'm betting this shiznit goes on in most gyms across the country. Any of you guys/gals know any youngsters like this & do you try to enlighten them?
 
Hank they are lost causes…

I was that way as well. And now I’m 100% in trt and I blast a little primo or deca. Mainly primo now that I’m moneyed up in life.
 
i think it filtered down from the 90s pros who never came off . this went into the net in 2000s i remember when i topics first came out. i didnt know anyone was even still doing it
 
Tell them about your friend Rough who can't cum any more from doing the same thing. Big fat bouncy balls that arent good for anything any more except Christmas decorations.
 
I didn't start till roughly 33 (57 now). And back then, gear was harder to get, I was just getting into online chats etc.
Cycles we're a brief once, maaaaaaybe 2x per yr for a number of years. Abt 7,8 years ago I decided to stay on but kinda switched the routine around and come off 2x per yr. Just to give receptors and everything else a 5, 6 week break.
And when I get back on, I respond sooooo well on very little and then I ramp up.
So I put in my time naturally for alot of years. I see some of the guys that NEVER CAME OFF from the late 80's - 90's + and they've had heart issues. And they did less. These kids (I call them the jersey shore kids) now, doing more, with more, compounds including tren, they're gonna be 'F'd up when they get to their 40s and beyond.
Anyways, that's kinda my history and what I see
 
My doctor actually told me he never wants me to come completely off. He doesn’t want me yo-yoing my hormones to that extent and doesn’t want me taking SERMS. He grants his magestys approval to use alittle bit of adex for a week before a show but that’s it. He wants me on the trt he prescribes and condones certain cycles at certain times for specific reasons.

But yes, I always laugh when someone exclaims at they are “cruising” on 500mg a week. Whatever you think bro. ��
 
It’s hard to tell people because they simply won’t listen. It’s only when the bad things come that they wish they had paid more attention. If you can’t convince people not to smoke then you can’t convince them of this. Smokers always regret it in the end and some f us are amazed that they didn’t listen. I mean, it literally says it on the pack. Its only after the damage that we feel regret. I think that is just who humans are. But agreed, cruising on 500 is nuts to me and its a bad decision.




~PM
 
I turned to the dark side at 30, now 54. I couldn't imagine why someone that young would think they need it. Just my $.02
 
Roughrydr said:
Tell them about your friend Rough who can't cum any more from doing the same thing. Big fat bouncy balls that arent good for anything any more except Christmas decorations.
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Damn bro. Sorry to hear that.
Hey, at least they?re not shriveled raisins!
 
zeke said:
I turned to the dark side at 30, now 54. I couldn't imagine why someone that young would think they need it. Just my $.02
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I took the plunge at 52 and now a razor's edge close to 60. Smartest move I made.
 
I was in my 30s before I began as well. I think this is why I don’t lose much when I am off cycle. I built a base natural and pushed it as far as it would go before I touched it. Now people accuse me of drugs when I have actually taken very little.




~PM
 
Damn, i thought i was a late bloomer not turning to gear until my early 30s. Probably a good thing for us all. Lol
We were older and more mature when we started but lets be honest. Had we started when we were 20 we probably would have done the same. At that age the future usually isnt something you think about. Its all about here and now and thinking your gonna live forever. You want everything now not tomorrow.
Not condoning it just being real thinking about when i was 20.
Hopefully they dont suffer any serious health issues but all the younger guys i know that did massive doses and never came off all are having health issues now. Guess im just thankful i didnt start until i had enough sense to be somewhat responsible about it.
 
Years ago at GenXXL and other boards I used to read young members joining and saying ?what can I take??. They were 18 or 20 years old and when I was mentioning that they had to have a solid routine and a good diet first they weren?t happy. Anyway when they weren?t cycling they were bridging which basically means that they stayed on all year ?
 
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