6 weeks in....

well i figured that, i was just wondering what you are taking? what number cycle are u on?
 
My 1st REAL cycle....

test e 500mg 1-12
dbol50-100mg 1-4
proviron-50mg-5-14
prop-13-14
winny-75mg 9-14
 
ok i just read your other threads TestE and dbol . TBH, you could have dont a lot more naturally with perfecting your diet and training. But its like pot calling the kettle black, cause i made the same mistake when I was younger. I am still learning my diet, and how fucking important it is.
Good base to start with definitely but lot of work needs to be done.
 
how old are you bro. You dont need 100 mg of DBOl. hell tbh you dont even need 50mg. IF its real dbol, you can work on 20-30 mg with perfect diet. Dbols the shit.

Not too dangerous a cycle compared to what people are doing these days, but still at your stage of development i think its over kill. But i think i will let the more experienced VEts chime in.
 
Note: I am not trying to sound harsh, just constructive criticism. I wish when i first started out people were more real with me buot the cycle use diet etc. Besides if you are on probation man, i would chop your face out.. and hide those tats.
 
I hear ya bro....I know i need a lot of work on my chest and back especially...I'm open to all critisism so keep it comin....
 
I don't think I will be the first to tell ya that you are far from even needing any gear dude. Not being a dick, just being real. But hey, you've already delved in so enjoy it. My best advice would be put some solid work in the gym and eat right - do that for a few years and you will be a shitload more jacked than any gear will make you. Happy cycle. :)
 
Yep that's what I was saying. From the fact that u went to drink this weekend after being on dbol, shows that you r not serious. Nothing wrong with that, I will be the first to tell u don't let this game become your life, make it a art of you life. But lot of us confuse "want to look good and take gear" and "I am so fucking serious about this that I will cook the week before all my meals package, and sacrifice social life to achieve my goals" its when you r ready to do the later u know u r ready for gear. There's a difference between wanting something and wanting it so bad that nothing else matters
 
Bananas said:
Yep that's what I was saying. From the fact that u went to drink this weekend after being on dbol, shows that you r not serious. Nothing wrong with that, I will be the first to tell u don't let this game become your life, make it a art of you life. But lot of us confuse "want to look good and take gear" and "I am so fucking serious about this that I will cook the week before all my meals package, and sacrifice social life to achieve my goals" its when you r ready to do the later u know u r ready for gear. There's a difference between wanting something and wanting it so bad that nothing else matters
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I do plan my meals weeks in advance and i am serious about training and i havent taken dbol in almost 3 weeks this was a one time per year huge party i always go to i dont be all out at the bars and shit im always home....
 
You need to build a foundation of some kind before you start cycling. You are putting the cart in front of the horse. :rolleyes2
 
If you're serious about gettin big, post up your routine and diet so we can help you gain some muscle.
 
You don't have to sacrifice your social life just because you're into BBing, but the gym and food are gonna have to come first. Plan your life around them...
 
Shovel said:
You don't have to sacrifice your social life just because you're into BBing, but the gym and food are gonna have to come first. Plan your life around them...
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you are right. you can still have fun, but lets be honest, you gonna haev to be satisfied with maybe one rum and diet coke, or order a caesar chicken salad when on a date. lol how much fun is that. :-(
 
Shovel said:
If you're serious about gettin big, post up your routine and diet so we can help you gain some muscle.
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wake up-20g whey

pre-workout-40g whey 1/2cup oats-30g carbs,1 cup milk

postworkout- 50g whey,60g dextrose,5g creatine

post meal-8oz chicken breast,1 cup broccholi, 1 cup brown rice

meal 2-2 cans tuna,3 slices multi grain nut bread,1 tbsp olive oil

meal 3-omlet-3 whole eggs,5 egg whites,veggies,milk

before bed-1 cup milk,1/4 cup flaxseeds,1/4 cup wheat bran,25g whey



training

monday-chest/tri's
different combos each time of flat, incline,decline bench with barbell and dumbells

pullovers

flyes

skullcrushers

pushdowns

dumbell/barbell behind neck extensions

tri pressdown machine


tuesday-back-bi's

t-bar rows

bent rows

deadlifts

one arm rows

pulldowns

seated rows

alternating dumbell curls

preacher curls

cable curls

curls


wed-off

thursday-legs

squats

hack squats

leg press

leg extensions

lying leg curls

calf raises

friday-shoulders

shrugs

upright rows

lateral raises

bent lat raises

military presses

arnold presses

dumbell shoulder presses


sat-usually chest and back again my 2 weakest points
 
Dude those are some marathon workouts. When you do that much its inevitable that it becomes a pacing workout. You'd be much better off doing half that much and going more intense.
 
Bananas said:
you are right. you can still have fun, but lets be honest, you gonna haev to be satisfied with maybe one rum and diet coke, or order a caesar chicken salad when on a date. lol how much fun is that. :-(
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I always just drink water at the bars.
 
Definately not enough food, but if you're gaining then so be it.
Try this routine for the rest of your cycle.

Monday- back, bis
[pulldowns x4, rows x4, deads x4, shrugs x4][curls x4]

Tuesday- off

Wednesday- chest, tris
[flat x4, incline x4, dips x4][skulls x4]

Thursday- off

Friday- off

Saturday-*legs, abs, shoulders
[squats x5, calf raises x5][abs x4][db press x4, laterals x4]

Sunday- off

It should give you plenty of recovery time and go with 10 reps of max weight each set.
 
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