8 weeks and off the wagon

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Well, nothing lasts forever.
I made it 8 weeks straight (this Friday) weighing 222 or less every morning, but this morning was 223.
I guess a week off work has enabled me to eat a bit more liberally, and I did and it was good.
I'm still 43 pounds down from last March, "C'est la vie, Plume Papa!"
Oh well, on a good note though, my workouts are going great, feeling good, and looking forward to a massive DJ Party next Saturday. Arm is healing and all is well.
Ho, Ho, Ho!
 
How can you possibly even guage such a miniscule gain or loss in weight as having ANY significance? My daughter goes up/ down a lb depending on food intake bm/urination. She's +/- 28lbs. Pecentage loss/gain on her isn't even noteworthy unless it's over a lb sustained for more than a week(once again @ 28 lbs.)
 
i wouldn't call 1 lb gaining weight, if your average weight is all up a pound for an extended period of time then yeah, but when i'm riding and training a lot i'll drift sometimes up to 6 pounds in a 24 hour period.
 
OMG dude you gained 1 full lb....get out the gun you cheater! :eek: :p
 
LOL, seriously though, with the arm thing I let the diet slip.
I can feel it the way my clothes fit as well.
Too early in the game to start back on that road.
My goal for this year was to stay below 225 through the holidays, but
eating like I have been I'll be way over that.
Not in the long range plan.
Time to step it up a notch.
 
I vary 4-5 lbs from night to morning.

Yes, so do I and I have been doing so during the diet period, but Saturday was the first time in 2 months I went over 222 in the morning.
I'm almost ready to let the flood gates open and go back up to 230.
I could do it easily. I've been holding back for a long time, but lately the intensity of my workouts is fantastic. I can work out hard for 5 days in a row now. Strength is up and quite amazed at my pumps. Feeling distant to the bullshit at work and home.
Had a 2 hour chest, triceps and legs workout in the gym tonight. Massive volume sets done to failure. Wife was pissed because she didn't believe I was there the whole time, which I was.
I told her, "The one thing I get satisfaction from in life is lifting weights, because, I'm good at it, I make great gains, and I know exactly what I am doing." Unlike remodeling the house, which is a never-ending job, with no appreciation, and where each project is interupted by the loading on of another project.
Flooood gaaaates!
Fuck it...flood gates...time to let out the beast.
 
2 hour chest, triceps and legs workout in the gym tonight

There is one of your problems right there.
45 min at the max .
You were not serious when you went in there.
I know I don't get much respect around here , but let me tell you something about dropping pounds.

It isn't pounds you want to lose , it is body fat .
So ! throw the scale out the window . It is of no use to you.
Most people I've worked with through the years who were wanting to lose weight alway thought the scale was the number one tool in determine the loss of fat .
I assure you that is far from the truth.
You need a set of Accu-Measure calipers to determine your BF% . Unless you have money to go the other routes.
Further more, If you are exercising properly during your weight lifting routine you should be sweating like a Hebrew slave , your heart pounding like a race horse in the Kentucky derby.
A fucking complete all out effort . Nothing more, and nothing less.
If it takes you two hours , you are just wasting your time.

You have to be rock solid determined to bust your ass and that nothing or anyone can get in your way.

Moreover, You have to paint a mental picture of your body and how you want to look and feel after a "set in stone amount" of time. There HAS to be time intervals of development. A schedule of progress so as to know if what I'm doing is working or not.
This Progress record "progress or lack thereof " will be a great time saver for you. I promise.
I use a six week progress report (body stats) to determine if what I'm busting my ass at is working for me or not.
And if not I will change things for the next six week report . Maybe you change particular exercise or set rep range.
Whatever !
One of the biggest mistakes and time waster is taking an exercise and doing it over and over without seeing any results.
Yes ! This does happen and if you didn't have a progress report to let you know then you would be wasting valuable time.
In addition to that you need a log to keep track of Exercise, Load , Reps and Sets for daily gym use.
You have to have a fucking plan of action and want it with every fiber in your body.

As for dieting I would not advise doing any.
What I would advise it have a good diet , making good food choices.
And the only way you can ever know if the choices you make are good is to know there values.
I have ran a many a fat fuck through my gyms and each and everyone did not have a clue as to what were good food choices.
I've always started them off by keeping a food log and at the end of every week have them add up the values
( calories, protien..ect) and at the end of a month I would have them divide it by 30 which would give the average daily caloric intake.
That is a very valuable number if a person want to either lose or gain weight .
If you continue to consume the same amount of calories and keep the same exercise regime then you will never lose a singe pound from all you effort.
Then on the other hand, I take my caloric average and drop a few cal I will start to see some change.
And if I add a little more cardio to my regime I'll see more good results.
As you start to keep track of your daily intake you will find as you go through a Food Count book that some simple changes in my food choices can make worlds of difference in my caloric consumption without sacrificing flavor or fullness .
Lets take broiled chicken for example
Chicken breast, meat & skin, boiled 150 cals
Chicken breast, meat only, boiled 140 cal

You have saved 10 cals with just removing the skin.
Cutting cals is easy to do if you know what your baseline is.

Ok ! I could go on a lot more with this , but I'll stop here.
 
There is one of your problems right there.
45 min at the max .
You were not serious when you went in there.
I know I don't get much respect around here , but let me tell you something about dropping pounds.

It isn't pounds you want to lose , it is body fat .
So ! throw the scale out the window . It is of no use to you.
Most people I've worked with through the years who were wanting to lose weight alway thought the scale was the number one tool in determine the loss of fat .
I assure you that is far from the truth.
You need a set of Accu-Measure calipers to determine your BF% . Unless you have money to go the other routes.
Further more, If you are exercising properly during your weight lifting routine you should be sweating like a Hebrew slave , your heart pounding like a race horse in the Kentucky derby.
A fucking complete all out effort . Nothing more, and nothing less.
If it takes you two hours , you are just wasting your time.

You have to be rock solid determined to bust your ass and that nothing or anyone can get in your way.

Moreover, You have to paint a mental picture of your body and how you want to look and feel after a "set in stone amount" of time. There HAS to be time intervals of development. A schedule of progress so as to know if what I'm doing is working or not.
This Progress record "progress or lack thereof " will be a great time saver for you. I promise.
I use a six week progress report (body stats) to determine if what I'm busting my ass at is working for me or not.
And if not I will change things for the next six week report . Maybe you change particular exercise or set rep range.
Whatever !
One of the biggest mistakes and time waster is taking an exercise and doing it over and over without seeing any results.
Yes ! This does happen and if you didn't have a progress report to let you know then you would be wasting valuable time.
In addition to that you need a log to keep track of Exercise, Load , Reps and Sets for daily gym use.
You have to have a fucking plan of action and want it with every fiber in your body.

As for dieting I would not advise doing any.
What I would advise it have a good diet , making good food choices.
And the only way you can ever know if the choices you make are good is to know there values.
I have ran a many a fat fuck through my gyms and each and everyone did not have a clue as to what were good food choices.
I've always started them off by keeping a food log and at the end of every week have them add up the values
( calories, protien..ect) and at the end of a month I would have them divide it by 30 which would give the average daily caloric intake.
That is a very valuable number if a person want to either lose or gain weight .
If you continue to consume the same amount of calories and keep the same exercise regime then you will never lose a singe pound from all you effort.
Then on the other hand, I take my caloric average and drop a few cal I will start to see some change.
And if I add a little more cardio to my regime I'll see more good results.
As you start to keep track of your daily intake you will find as you go through a Food Count book that some simple changes in my food choices can make worlds of difference in my caloric consumption without sacrificing flavor or fullness .
Lets take broiled chicken for example
Chicken breast, meat & skin, boiled 150 cals
Chicken breast, meat only, boiled 140 cal

You have saved 10 cals with just removing the skin.
Cutting cals is easy to do if you know what your baseline is.

Ok ! I could go on a lot more with this , but I'll stop here.

Post one of your pix HR so he can see you walk the walk so you can prove to him you know what you're talking about. Then he'll see you be da man! Run those fat fucks off. Do what you do! Yeaaaah!!!
 
There is one of your problems right there.
45 min at the max .
You were not serious when you went in there.

I certainly agree with "2 hour chest, triceps and legs workout in the gym tonight" being enitrely too much in 1 workout fosho. :eek:

However bro, you can't put a "45min max" rule per workout. The time is going to vary greatly depending on what bdpt your working, ie, legs vs delts, etc. Legs might take me 1.5-2 hours(much of that resting between bust-ass sets of squats or leg presses). Whereas a smaller bdpt like delts might take only 30-40 mins. :)
 
I certainly agree with "2 hour chest, triceps and legs workout in the gym tonight" being enitrely too much in 1 workout fosho. :eek:

However bro, you can't put a "45min max" rule per workout. The time is going to vary greatly depending on what bdpt your working, ie, legs vs delts, etc. Legs might take me 1.5-2 hours(much of that resting between bust-ass sets of squats or leg presses). Whereas a smaller bdpt like delts might take only 30-40 mins. :)

Now Hank you heard what he said! Those ARE the rules. It's up to us all to follow them whether we like em or not. I don't like it any better than you do but rules are rules. From now on it's strictly 45 minutes in the gym.
 
He isn't tweaking any body part .
He isn't whipping up to show condition .
For the average lifter 45 min is plenty of time to do a workout.
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I try to give some advice and all I get for trying is the fucking peanut gallery spewing out more bullshit.

Why doesn't someone give his some advice instead of running your dick sucker ?
 
Unless I am doing mostly supersets, 45 minutes is not enough for me to complete a proper workout.
I was a swimmer for nine years. For 3 years in college we averaged 34 miles per week spread out over 8 workouts of 1 1/2 hours each. I always liked volume. I was never a proponent of the "less-is-more" weight-lifting philosophy. I had some things on my mind and wanted to get through my workout. I mixed volume and supersets.

The best squat I ever had was 465 for 7 reps. This was after lifting 2 1/2 to 3 hours a day, 6 days a week, for over 5 months. I did not use any steriods then. People respond differently to exercise.

My diet was very tight, but thank you HR, now I know the skin on a chicken breast only has 10 calories. That's amazing that all that skin only has approximately 1.09 grams of fat. Hmmm...but, I don't eat chicken skin anyway.

My chest is flat now and it is embarrassing. I used to be able to hold a quarter between my pecs. That was when I trained 2 1/2 hours a day 6 days a week (but this was 7 years before the squat max period). I need to stimulate the muscle fibers of my chest, that were built before, but got buried in time.

Here was my workout:
(I generally only take 30 secs or less between sets and choose the weight that pushes the lines of failure)
1) Hammer incline chest 1 x WU, 3 x 8, 6 x 6 increasing weight each set (IWES) Extra pad under back for stretch in all 3 chest press exercises

2) Hammer chest press 3 x 8, 5 x 6 (IWES)

3) superset #1 (the only rest was the time to move between exercises) 8 x 8 both exercises.
a. Incline chest flyes (going below shoulder lever)
b. reverse grip tricep press-downs (using a thick 3" bar)

4) Hammer strength bench press (IWES) 9 x 6
(failure each set and used rest/pause the last 3 sets to get 6 reps)

5) Superset #2 (8 x 8 both exercises)
a. flat bench D-bell flyes (below shoulder level)
b. standing tricep press downs

6) kneeling tricep rope extensions (my favorite tricep exercise) 9 x 9 with 90 lbs (30 secs rest)

7) Superset #3
a. Hammer Strength leg press (9 x 8)
b. seated calf raises (9 x 12)

8) Superset #4
a. Hammer Strength 45 degree leg press 3 x 8
b. leg press calf raises 3 x 12
(some guy wanted to cut in so I just let him have the leg press, fuck it, I don't socialize in the gym, so I moved on)

9) Superset # 5
a. leg extensions (6 x 8)
b. leg curls (6 x 8)

10) Assisted dips (7 x 8) emphasizing a full stretch

That was it, 111 total sets. My chest feels fantastic today, it's really coming around. My triceps are tight and full. My calves are alive with feeling, I love flexing them again. They first got over 18" by training them 4 x week at 12 x 12 each day for 5 months. My legs are taut and sore. I have a half inch of flab on my gut, but my abs, once deep and chiseled, are uprising from the ashes of neglect after many seasons, and once again are easily visible. In 6 months, they will be chiseled again.
I weighed 228 this morning, had an egg/cheese/bacon muffin sandwich, yogurt, scoop of peanut butter with coffee this morning, but now I am vying for some dried oatmeal, granola, cranberries, with a scoop of protein powder and some stevia balance...yum.
 
HR, you are right in a way. I am not tweaking any body part.
I am getting back into shape, but with emphasis on waistline & chest, and the ultimate goal of looking fantastic next summer. I might even do a mini-triathlon in July, if my ankle can handle the running training.
Oh, and I am far from an "average lifter."
Not the strongest by any means.
I am not a power-lifter, but use those principles in changing my physique.
I've been lifting since 1979, and went from 154 to 265 and now trimmed to 224.
I appreciate your tips, though, HR, as tips are the main reason I am here
(tips for living, tips for loving, tips for laughing, and tips for lifting.)
You could say I was a "tip man!" (Breast reference intended)
It's volume back/biceps for tonight:tounge2:
 
I've always got my best results from a 4 day split .
Mon & Wed
Shoulders, chest and tri's

Tue & Thur.
Bi's , lats ( back) and legs

In addition , I like to do three exercises per body part.
 
When you limit your rest between sets to such an extreme, you are NOT reaping the full benefits of pumping iron...you turn it into an aerobic event. :eek: To optimize increasing muscle size, one must rest enuff to be able to handle optimal poundages in good form for the given reps. That may be only 1-2 mins rest for barbell curls, or it may be as long as 8 mins rest before busting ass on that last, balls-to-the-wall set of squats for 500 x 8. Rest enuff to recover between sets and grow more...dont turn your iron game into a cardio session. ;)
 
I've always got my best results from a 4 day split .
Mon & Wed
Shoulders, chest and tri's

Tue & Thur.
Bi's , lats ( back) and legs

In addition , I like to do three exercises per body part.

Not trying to be a dick or nothing seriously ..can we see a pic of your 'best results"??
 
When you limit your rest between sets to such an extreme, you are NOT reaping the full benefits of pumping iron...you turn it into an aerobic event. :eek: To optimize increasing muscle size, one must rest enuff to be able to handle optimal poundages in good form for the given reps. That may be only 1-2 mins rest for barbell curls, or it may be as long as 8 mins rest before busting ass on that last, balls-to-the-wall set of squats for 500 x 8. Rest enuff to recover between sets and grow more...dont turn your iron game into a cardio session. ;)

Sounds like great info to me.
May I ask you a question please sir ?.
Would this also hold true from someone like mrhtbd who I believe is trying to gain muscle and at the same time lower bf ? Would this be of his best interest ?



Thanks for you experience Hank !
We need more of that kind of info around here .
Thanks again
 
Thanks for your input, but I failed to mention my self hate which pushes me to far-reaching, and extreme personal punishment on a regular and continual basis.
Vis-a-vis, volume training.
Besides, I am more interested in shaping the muscle I have rather than build substantially more.
The again, like I wrote last week, maybe I should let the flood-gates open and go ballistic.
 

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