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If anyone's grandparents are still alive ask them if their mom or dad gave them castor oil as a kid growing up.

And then think on why ;)
 
I started the Mimosa day before yesterday (night dose of two caps). Then two caps the following morning, two last night, and two this morning (following bottle directions). To be honest, I'm starting to feel like crap. Last night I had a small panic attack as I was falling asleep. Today, I've had a sore throat today along with random allergies/asthma/headaches. Also having pretty bad irritability tonight. I'm gonna skip tonight's dose and noticed you just said one cap twice a day. I've not noticed anything in my stool, but I've also not gone poking around in it. If I'm already having some kind of die-off reaction, then I have to wonder just how bad things are... and I haven't even gotten the wormwood/walnut/cloves complex yet.
 
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I started the Mimosa day before yesterday (night dose of two caps). Then two caps the following morning, two last night, and two this morning (following bottle directions). To be honest, I'm starting to feel like crap. Last night I had a small panic attack as I was falling asleep. Today, I've had a sore throat today along with random allergies/asthma/headaches. Also having pretty bad irritability tonight. I'm gonna skip tonight's dose and noticed you just said one cap twice a day. I've not noticed anything in my stool, but I've also not gone poking around in it. If I'm already having some kind of die-off reaction, then I have to wonder just how bad things are... and I haven't even gotten the wormwood/walnut/cloves complex yet.

Yes man this is die off and the fact you mentioned anxiety means you've absolutely hit or hurt or killed some big ones and they're releasing their endotoxins.

Again guys parasite cleansing should be done slowly and it's why I put the precautions in previous posts I did. Skip today's dose and resume SLOWLY one pill at a time once you feel better.

You're probably heavily infested, and most bodybuilders would be.

This is why I stressed the importance of having very good working elimination pathways. And not to be on any orals
 
The sore throat is from the endotoxins and general toxin release from killing the worms. Usually once you have a few significant and often horribly smelly bowel movements the sore throat will disappear as it's transitory in relation to toxins being dumped into blood stre from the die off

Also another reason why I recommended Vitamin C. 1-2 grams every two hours if you feel bad and it will have you feeling much better in a day.
 
One thing I might add as well,

At first I, too, was following the directions on the bottle and doing two per day. Then after about a week I noticed this dosage was probably too strong. I changed it to one capsule per day 3x per week. This was much better for me.


Also, a pretty serious anxiety and panic attack where my heart was POUNDING and beating rapidly preceded me passing the biggest worm I had ever passed at about 15 inches. Immediately the day of passing it I felt great and the anxiety was completely gone. It's important to note that the body is an AMAZING piece of biological machinery, nothing on earth comes close to it's sophistication, so when something very poisonous is killed and toxins are subsequently released the heart will actually compensate for this by beating harder and faster to pump fresh blood to the areas needing cleanup.

Before parasite cleansing I lived with anxiety probably worse than anyone I've ever met. Now I have none because my body's terrain or internal ecosystem is how it should be.

Listen to your body.
 
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What helps with the the temporary anxiety or panic attacks due to die off besides actually deep slow breathing which actually can stop it, is putting 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne into some water that has been microwaved for 30 seconds.

This is good for your heart and improves.blood flow within seconds and actually can shorten the time of the attack.

Don't get me wrong, not everyone gets anxiety, but if you're killing very old worms that have pretty much become part of your intestinal lining it's normal to have anxiety, temporarily. It's how your body tells you something is wrong or in this case, you're eliminating poisons.
 
Beef,

For what it's worth, the dosages you've taken already are probably enough for the next 10 days. You'll start seeing stuff in the next couple of days meaning for now you can store the bottle of Mimosa and just take some more in a couple weeks.

So you've basically taken 4 doses or two caps four times. From my experience that's enough for the next 10-15 days. Let your body flush out what those doses have undoubtedly killed. For the next few weeks take 3 grams of Vitamin C daily with preferably a good magnesium supplement and any other vitamins you may take. .

I would advise you to sift through a few of your bowel movements obviously keeping sterile but it's provided invaluable knowledge and proof for me

You have big round worms but also thread worms in the stool that once you dig out looks literally like those hairs that grow out of sweet potatoes. Those are threadworms. The rope worms are bigger and look like earth worms.
 
Yes man this is die off and the fact you mentioned anxiety means you've absolutely hit or hurt or killed some big ones and they're releasing their endotoxins.

Again guys parasite cleansing should be done slowly and it's why I put the precautions in previous posts I did. Skip today's dose and resume SLOWLY one pill at a time once you feel better.

You're probably heavily infested, and most bodybuilders would be.

This is why I stressed the importance of having very good working elimination pathways. And not to be on any orals

I'm super regular with bowel movements, but today, not a thing. It's noon, and I'm starting to feel some grumbling and discomfort, though, which is abnormal for me. I'm a bit worried to look when I do go to the bathroom. It's coming soon.

The sore throat is from the endotoxins and general toxin release from killing the worms. Usually once you have a few significant and often horribly smelly bowel movements the sore throat will disappear as it's transitory in relation to toxins being dumped into blood stre from the die off

Also another reason why I recommended Vitamin C. 1-2 grams every two hours if you feel bad and it will have you feeling much better in a day.

I'm feeling a *little* better today but was awful this morning. I didn't take last night's or this morning's dose. Still have sniffles and throat irritation but not as bad.

What helps with the the temporary anxiety or panic attacks due to die off besides actually deep slow breathing which actually can stop it, is putting 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne into some water that has been microwaved for 30 seconds.

This is good for your heart and improves.blood flow within seconds and actually can shorten the time of the attack.

Don't get me wrong, not everyone gets anxiety, but if you're killing very old worms that have pretty much become part of your intestinal lining it's normal to have anxiety, temporarily. It's how your body tells you something is wrong or in this case, you're eliminating poisons.

I'll get some cayenne later today. The panic attack the previous night hit me out of nowhere. It was one of those where you shoot straight up out of bed thinking you're dying.

Beef,

For what it's worth, the dosages you've taken already are probably enough for the next 10 days. You'll start seeing stuff in the next couple of days meaning for now you can store the bottle of Mimosa and just take some more in a couple weeks.

So you've basically taken 4 doses or two caps four times. From my experience that's enough for the next 10-15 days. Let your body flush out what those doses have undoubtedly killed. For the next few weeks take 3 grams of Vitamin C daily with preferably a good magnesium supplement and any other vitamins you may take. .

I would advise you to sift through a few of your bowel movements obviously keeping sterile but it's provided invaluable knowledge and proof for me

You have big round worms but also thread worms in the stool that once you dig out looks literally like those hairs that grow out of sweet potatoes. Those are threadworms. The rope worms are bigger and look like earth worms.

I take Ester-C at 1g every morning so will step it up. I also take Magtab-SR (Magnesium L-lactate dihydrate).

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Ok, so I just had a bowel movement. This may be a bit graphic. I had one bit of stool that was hanging but I finally got off me. I poked through it and was dismayed to find a worm, and it was exactly like you stated... like an earthworm. Around 10 years ago, I was renting a place where the plumbing had been compromised big time, and it was at that time I started to have this pain in my ileocecal area. That pain became chronic, and while it deadened over the years, there are always times it will resurface. Today, after my BM, I feel that area again, but it feels different. There is pain but a certain "lightness" or relief in the area. Interesting. You know what pisses me off? I had a colonoscopy over this pain, which only goes up to the valve and not past it. I told that asshole the pain was beyond it, but he ignored me and just said I had "IBS." I'm going to keep pressing ahead. This is a huge revelation, thanks to you, Krieg. There is no telling what else has been allowed to enter my system because of that worm, and I'm sure there are more. I'm particularly curious about this ammonia issue as well and liver flukes. I've been fighting a losing battle with leaky gut (which, of course, isn't a real diagnosis to MD's), drinking bone broth and whatnot... never addressing the root problem.

On a side note, I feel a lot better right now... almost a high-like feeling. This is nuts. Exactly as you stated.

I just Googled images for rope worms, and yep, that was it (the dark brown ones).
 
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If your immune system is not compromised, you will not carry large loads of parasites nor will you necessarily become 'easily' infected. Although you can theoretically get them from swimming in lakes or eating raw seafood or undercooked meat even if you are healthy.

But to answer your question, yes it's that easy. I had a conversation with an MD one time who said when he was at LSU they discovered that the cytomegalovirus caused brain cancer in every person that was heavily infected with it and they were curing brain cancer with a powerful anti viral. The study was discontinued. He told me he asked his director why and they were told to shut it down as enougj "evidence" had been gathered.

He also agreed with me that parasite infestation is one of the biggest causes of disease in the world and in first world countries.

If you don't believe me take Mimosa Pudica and go through your stool with a Q tip. They'll be there. Threadworms and roundworms. They're called parasites mainly because they take from you without you even knowing they're there.

Also, protozoa is considered a parasite as well as a typical roundworm so parasite is a very broad term. But worms are a big problem.

My health changed forever when I became aware of them after taking wormwood in my early discovery days and started killing them. That's literally how I cured my Crohn's.

You cured your Crohns! Now that?s something right there. I have to try this!
 
I was thinking same as you Beef. I wouldn’t want to look. Knowing something like that was inside me would feel me out for awhile I’m sure. Are you freeked Beef? Lol
 
Hey Krieg, could parasites raise creatinine levels? Or liver enzymes? I have been dealing with high ALT and AST even when not using orals. Past couple years. Nothing crazy but other than a possible fatty liver, which is doubtful, it came out of nowhere. I’ve used orals for years and only time it would be high was when I was on orals at the time.
 
I'll get some cayenne later today. The panic attack the previous night hit me out of nowhere. It was one of those where you shoot straight up out of bed thinking you're dying.

Omg bro, I laughed when I read this part. I pictured this in my head and died laughing. Ive has that feeling before!

What the hell did you use to poke through your stool? And did it freak you out when you saw that knowing it came out of you?

I just started tonight and took two a few hours ago and already have a slight headache. I think I?m going to do one a day or maybe one eod if the side effects are too bad!

Can?t wait to see what comes out of me!
 
Beef,

For what it's worth, the dosages you've taken already are probably enough for the next 10 days. You'll start seeing stuff in the next couple of days meaning for now you can store the bottle of Mimosa and just take some more in a couple weeks.

So you've basically taken 4 doses or two caps four times. From my experience that's enough for the next 10-15 days. Let your body flush out what those doses have undoubtedly killed. For the next few weeks take 3 grams of Vitamin C daily with preferably a good magnesium supplement and any other vitamins you may take. .

I would advise you to sift through a few of your bowel movements obviously keeping sterile but it's provided invaluable knowledge and proof for me

You have big round worms but also thread worms in the stool that once you dig out looks literally like those hairs that grow out of sweet potatoes. Those are threadworms. The rope worms are bigger and look like earth worms.

What is the proper way to cycle this supplement? I know you don?t stay on it but how often would you take it and then how long would you stay off of it?
 
Omg bro, I laughed when I read this part. I pictured this in my head and died laughing. Ive has that feeling before!

What the hell did you use to poke through your stool? And did it freak you out when you saw that knowing it came out of you?

I just started tonight and took two a few hours ago and already have a slight headache. I think I’m going to do one a day or maybe one eod if the side effects are too bad!

Can’t wait to see what comes out of me!

I just used a q-tip. The water was just shallow enough to fish it up to the bowl's side, but that was just by itself mostly. I didn't go cutting up the turds, so there may have been more to see. It was gross, but at the same time, I was annoyed it was inside of me. And that was just 2.5 days of Mimosa at two caps morning and night. I'll pick back up in a few weeks, though I may try to time it so the shitty times hit on the weekends. I had an awful workout two days after I started. Yesterday's workout was better since stopping temporarily.
 
Hey Krieg, could parasites raise creatinine levels? Or liver enzymes? I have been dealing with high ALT and AST even when not using orals. Past couple years. Nothing crazy but other than a possible fatty liver, which is doubtful, it came out of nowhere. I’ve used orals for years and only time it would be high was when I was on orals at the time.

Without being presumptuous and without making any medical diagnosis I will put forth my opinion given what I know about you and your situation (which is limited but iirc you said you don't ever come off test? Maybe even other things?)

I would say that actually, unless you've been actively doing things to stop it, you do have a fatty liver. People don't realize how common it is these days and I think in a study or examination of an article I was browsing when researching the liver a few weeks ago, over 80% of people over the age of 40 have a fatty liver. Now a fatty liver and full blown fatty liver disease are not the same. Think of fatty liver as 1-4 and fatty liver disease as a 10.

That's why it's called Non Alcoholic fatty liver disease. It doesn't take alcohol or necessarily any overt substances taken to get to the point where you liver cells are being replace by fatty tissue. It's purely a toxin thing. And parasites release a LOT of toxins on a daily basis.

Something I've found very interesting was that Candida, which is a parasite yet not a helminth (worm species) actually produces alcohol from sugar and therefore one of the main causes imo of NAFLD (fatty liver) is from candida leaving the colon and spreading into the upper intestinal tract and stomach and then blood.

Theoretically and actually not even necessarily theoretically as I can probably find studies to support this, but repetitive antibiotic usage can induce the progression of fatty liver disease.

Orals absolutely will strain the liver but do not necessarily cause fatty liver.

Fatty liver, put simply, is when your body and specifically gastrointestinal tract has become toxic and strayed so far from it's original natural biological terrain that it becomes a source of constant inflammation and toxins that then the liver has to battle against on a daily basis. I'm really grossly simplifying it but not so much that this isn't true.

High liver enzymes also primarily indicate liver activity and ARE NOT A RELIABLE INDICATOR AS TO LIVER HEALTH. That was literally from a doctor I follow who has obviously left the Cartel System as it stands today and has gone off on his own.

Here are some very useful indicators of liver health:

1. Energy levels (natural)
2. Stool color. Should be dark brown. Anything else indicates liver issues
3. Stool consistency. Should be shaped like your colon. So smooth logs. If they're super skinny you have bowel obstruction or diverticulitis etc etc. If they're like rabbit turds you're severely constipated dehydrated and loaded with parasites. If they're slimy and loose like pudding you have a messed up MicroBiome and probably Candida which deconjugates bile.

4. Skin condition. Eczema, psoriasis, etc indicate major toxins in blood stream which no doubt stress liver.

5. Gallbladder pain. Your gallbladder is full of stones and this the liver will be as well. See a product called Stone Breaker and buy a book called The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder flush.

6. Head aches or migraines. Not only liver problems but probably loaded with flukes and parasites.

7. Allergies

8. Food sensitivities

9. Leaky Gut.

10. ADD/ADHD. Can't focus. Always anxious. Liver is full of toxins and is backing up into bloodstream affecting brain.


Just reviewed your post one more time and saw you said you used orals for years.

Again my most important point in this post, given your oral usage history, if you've never actually spent a year or so detoxing and actively taking things to stop or prevent fatty liver ...would bet my money you have a fatty liver.


You can lower your ALT and AST by doing a liver flush. I would do a mild parasite cleanse before doing a liver flush though. You'll get way more stones out that way. You can also take a product called Stone Breaker by herbpharm that can clear gravel from the kidneys and also soften and dissolve the gallstones in your gallbladder and the stones in your liver.

Most people can't handle a liver flush. The ones that make it through report and show pictures of hundreds of little green brown and black stones that come out. Someone I know also had about a thousand little white worms the size of a fingernail come out of his.

You can also lower your liver enzymes by taking

Alpha Lipoic Acid
Dandelion Root
Milk Thistle Extract
NAC
MSM (king level) has to be the granular powder and has to be the patented kind

To conclude, the reason your enzymes are high even when not on orals is because you have chronic inflammation and an organ state akin to a toilet being backed up and not draining.

I maintain the position (after over a decade of research and real life experience) that everyone has parasites to some degree. The nature and severity of your health problems indicate the parasitic load.

So I'd say it's not so much "parasites" causing your high enzymes as it is that your high enzymes are indicators of liver activity and imo as stated above liver stress that is constant, so I'd work on detoxing and doing juices (with a juicer machine) will help a lot as well. My favorite to juice is celery. If you fast and drink nothing but celery juice for a day or two it's kinda like magic.
 
Thanks Kreig. Very helpful. I was thinking fatty liver too honestly. But curious if it was possible from parasites. I had also used a lot of insulin (lantus) around that time which can also add to a fatty liver.
 
I also take a really good Greens powder that has a large variety of probiotics, fruits and veggies every day for over a year. Plus vitamins and couple other supplements that make me feel great. Digestion is usually very good/normal. Go at least once a day on 3000 plus cals average. I do take breaks to just 150mg trt test only. But had been on much higher cruises (400-500mg per week) for a couple years because I wanted to see how big I could get before I got too old. Dumb idea honestly. I already was too old. Lol. To be doing that anyways. I recently stayed on just trt for 6 months. My idea now is to run more frequently short cycles with short esters. Which means lower doses too. Instead of 16-24 week blasts of 1500mg per week I’m doing 6 week blasts of around 600mg per week. 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. True trt in between blasts. So far I’m liking it. Should be much healthier too. Not as big swings in weight too. My dr was very happy to see my liver enzymes, creatinine and gfr improve considerably. I get bloodwork every 6 months.
 
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Super greens are really really good ... Loaded with micro minerals which support general life processes itself. Big fan of super greens
 
I’ve been feeling like total shite, lethargic and overall no motivation.
Next time I will plan a week long vacation around a total cleanse!
Going to the gym or even work absolutely sucks sacks!
 
Not to mention I have a horrible taste in my mouth. I believe the stomach has something to do with that.
 
I'm right there with you, Jrod. I haven't had a dose since last week. My energy levels suck total ass still, I have no strength or muscular endurance, and my mood is just awful. I think these parasites were actually helping me... kind of like a really shitty Venom that eats burritos instead of heads. Been taking 1g of Vitamin C three times a day. If I'm going to feel like ass, I may as well just go balls to the wall and Mimosa the fuck out of myself and throw in that Black Walnut/Wormwood/Cloves complex while I'm at it. I just want to sleep all the time. My dog hates me now.

Edit: Tonight's workout wasn't bad. Feel like I'm on the upswing, but I'm having serious fatigue during the day. At least I'm getting some good sleep at night.
 
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I'm right there with you, Jrod. I haven't had a dose since last week. My energy levels suck total ass still, I have no strength or muscular endurance, and my mood is just awful. I think these parasites were actually helping me... kind of like a really shitty Venom that eats burritos instead of heads. Been taking 1g of Vitamin C three times a day. If I'm going to feel like ass, I may as well just go balls to the wall and Mimosa the fuck out of myself and throw in that Black Walnut/Wormwood/Cloves complex while I'm at it. I just want to sleep all the time. My dog hates me now.

Edit: Tonight's workout wasn't bad. Feel like I'm on the upswing, but I'm having serious fatigue during the day. At least I'm getting some good sleep at night.

I?ve heard of women purposely giving themselves a tapeworm to lose weight. Then once they lost the weight they go to the dr and tell them what kind of tapeworm so they can remove it. Something crazy like that. Would kinda suck if afterwards you started gaining a lot of weight. But hopefully you?ll feel better.
 
I'm feeling better now, and I've noticed something I didn't expect. My blood pressure is down... a lot. So much that I'm wondering if that was my whole problem with my fatigue... that I was taking my medicine when I no longer needed it. I took 500mcg of MT2, and with only one tablet of Clonidine early this morning (I'm actually due my second dose right now), my BP was 139/76. I'm going to keep watching. My BP at this time of the morning before taking my second dose of Clonidine would normally by 150+/90+, especially after MT2.
 
Not to mention I have a horrible taste in my mouth. I believe the stomach has something to do with that.

Mimosa Pudica can remove mercury. You may be tasting metals being removed from your tissues and they're in your blood stream. I would start taking chlorella to bind the metals before they are deposited back into your tissues. Some will be excreted but about half will go back into your tissues if you don't bind it with chorella or charcoal
 
I'm right there with you, Jrod. I haven't had a dose since last week. My energy levels suck total ass still, I have no strength or muscular endurance, and my mood is just awful. I think these parasites were actually helping me... kind of like a really shitty Venom that eats burritos instead of heads. Been taking 1g of Vitamin C three times a day. If I'm going to feel like ass, I may as well just go balls to the wall and Mimosa the fuck out of myself and throw in that Black Walnut/Wormwood/Cloves complex while I'm at it. I just want to sleep all the time. My dog hates me now.

Edit: Tonight's workout wasn't bad. Feel like I'm on the upswing, but I'm having serious fatigue during the day. At least I'm getting some good sleep at night.

The fatigue is a sign you've got a lot of poison in your blood right now. Triple the dose of Vitamin C to 9 per day. I like to do 2 every 30 minutes until I feel better. Make sure it's pure absorbic acid.

"Take enough C to be symptom free"
 
I’ve heard of women purposely giving themselves a tapeworm to lose weight. Then once they lost the weight they go to the dr and tell them what kind of tapeworm so they can remove it. Something crazy like that. Would kinda suck if afterwards you started gaining a lot of weight. But hopefully you’ll feel better.

They used to sell tapeworm pills in the 70s. Tapeworms if out of control can simulate the condition of AIDS. It was a horrible idea and tapeworm is probably the most dangerous worms of all of them because they are infinitely more toxic and can grow up to the length of a car or two.

And there was no history or medical proof I'm aware of that the women who ate the tapeworm pills ever got them out.

You want to get cancer and permanent chronic disease and even gets AIDS, ingest a tapeworm pill.

Even Mimosa Pudica may not be able to take out a tapeworm. Sometimes with wormwood and black walnut and clove you'll get segments of it to come out. The only protocol I'm aware of that can kill tapeworm is extremely high dose CoQ10 combined with other parasite protocols established. And MSM must be taken in very high doses.
 
The fatigue is a sign you've got a lot of poison in your blood right now. Triple the dose of Vitamin C to 9 per day. I like to do 2 every 30 minutes until I feel better. Make sure it's pure absorbic acid.

"Take enough C to be symptom free"

Well shit. All this time I've been taking it as some kind of Vitamin C complex that has nothing of ascorbic acid in it (Ester-C). I picked up some Nutricost since I was able to get it same-day, and I've had good results with their products in the past. It does have Rose Hips, though, but primarily one caplet is 1000mg of Ascorbic Acid.
 
Well shit. All this time I've been taking it as some kind of Vitamin C complex that has nothing of ascorbic acid in it (Ester-C). I picked up some Nutricost since I was able to get it same-day, and I've had good results with their products in the past. It does have Rose Hips, though, but primarily one caplet is 1000mg of Ascorbic Acid.

Let us know if it helps. No way I?m gonna start the mimosa right now if I?m gonna feel like that. Gonna wait at least until this cycle is over. So maybe in two months. How long are we supposed to take the mimosa? Until we start feeling better? Did I miss that part?
 
You guys ever watch Monsters Inside Me on Discovery Life? Some crazy/scary parasites out there! Kinda strange how this came up here. My wife has been watching that show a lot lately. We both want to kill those fuckers now. My wife has been dealing with bad digestion for years now. When Kreig said rabbit turds could mean heavy parasite infestation, I thought of my wife. She goes number two only like once or twice a week and it’s been worrying the fuck out of me cause my moms friend died of colon cancer and had the same issue. And my wife won’t see the Dr about it. The only thing that has helped was this expensive probiotic that you have to keep refrigerated. She thought she was better and fixed her micro biome but when she ran out her digestion went back to the way it was. I wonder if it is parasites causing the issue.
 
Let us know if it helps. No way I?m gonna start the mimosa right now if I?m gonna feel like that. Gonna wait at least until this cycle is over. So maybe in two months. How long are we supposed to take the mimosa? Until we start feeling better? Did I miss that part?

I usually take enough mimosa to make a few big ones come out and then I may take off for the next week or next month. But I haven't really seen them anymore. I used a total of one bottle, but one bottle last me like 4 months.

You take whatever amount makes you feel good but also works to kill them. So even if you initially feel sick, you've taken enough to kill a good bit so you back off by a lot or completely, up the absorbic acid (Vit C) to 5-9 grams daily, and just go from there.

It took about a whole bottle for me to stop seeing the huge ones although I still occasionally see some smaller thread like worms. But I was very toxic before these last couple years and crystal meth evil poison didn't help and probably opened me up for the ones I had.

Best thing to do is spend a little time seeing how other people use it. And if in doubt just do two per week. One on Monday one one Tues then take the next 7-10 days off. And then repeat. Use Vitamin C in high doses during and after
 

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