Below pararell squats really are best

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We?ve all heard it, if you dip below parallel during a squat, your kneecap will blow off and land in the front desk girl?s mocha latte. Well it just ain?t true! What?s that, you need a little more evidence? Ok boys and girls, its time for today?s episode of Fun With Musculoskeletal Anatomy.
The knee has four main protective ligaments that keep the femur from displacing on the tibia (ACL, PCL, MCL, LCL). These four ligaments are most effective at their protection during full extension and full flexion. Full extension would be when you are standing; full flexion would be when there is no daylight between your hamstring and your calf. When the knee is at 90 degrees of flexion (the halfway point), these four ligaments are almost completely lax and cannot exert much if any of a protective force at the knee (Zatsiorsky V. Kinematics of human motion. 1998 - published by Human Kinetics - p.301).
Unfortunately, the position where the protective ligaments of the knee are not doing any protecting is the common recommended stopping point of a squat. Therefore, as it as it turns out, this is the exact worst place you could reverse the motion under load.
If flexibility allows (heels staying planted, torso not flexing forward past 45 degrees), then a full squat where you lower yourself all the way to the ground is far safer on the knees than the traditional half squat. Guess what joint angle most leg extension machines start at? If you said 90 degrees, give yourself a pat on your healthy knee. This makes a full squat even safer than a leg extension machine (Wilk K et al. A comparison of tibiofemoral joint forces and electromyographic activity during open and closed kinetic chain exercises. Am J Sports Med; 24(4):518-527).
 
Oly, thats a great post man. I have heard this millions of times. I have been doing all my warm ups past paralell for over a year with much less leg and knee soreness the next day.
 
not for me! ive had 2 knee surgeries.. one on each knee. squats are out of the question for me. I've been doing massive sets on leg press and it's working
 
hahahaha@massive sets of leg presses

speaking of presses , i just incorporated vertical leg p on the smith machine but you gotta be really careful.
 
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not for me! ive had 2 knee surgeries.. one on each knee. squats are out of the question for me. I've been doing massive sets on leg press and it's working

I think the key is when doing any movement for the first time or in a different manner is to start light. Taco, no need to do a 255 warm up for this, try the bar or some 50lb dumb bells. This is a good movement, don't just say you can't do it. I have trained allot of people with the same excuse when we get to squats, "I have bad knees, I can't do these" much to their avail by starting light and working up, they can do anything without having to do massive amounts of weight.
 
What about squatting below parrallel effects on the lower back. I always squatted to the floor and never no knee problems, but 3 bulging disc's is what I have know and now I can't squat at all.
 
Ahhhh...so that's why my honey makes me squat all the way down!

I just thought it was cuz he was checkin' out my ass! :wink2:
 
Ahhhh...so that's why my honey makes me squat all the way down!

I just thought it was cuz he was checkin' out my ass! :wink2:

And Can a mod make her title pink so it doesn't appear I am talking about a dudes azz!!!!! Or perhaps it's only the Mods that are pink... hummmmm ???:eek2:


BT
 
hahahaaaaaaaha..PM Ms Wetback, she is in charge of the pinky stuff..
 
Well some things just deserve top quality leadership... I feel this certainly applies..


BT
 
Chainsaw,
The compressive forces on your intervertebral discs are subject to the amount of weight you squat with, and this force is offset by the amount of core strength you have. The full squat motion with good lumbosacral and pelvic alignment as well as good hamstring flexibility should be well tolerated if your core is utilized throughout the movement. I have two disc herniations (L4-L5 and L5-S1) and I might go up to 185 just to get the hips and legs to work together. Heavier work is done on the leg press.
Remember that when you break paralell, the top of the sacrum goes from tipping forward, (nutation) to tipping backwards (counter-nutation), and this is a vulnerable movement for the lowest disc in the spinal column. The movement, however, is great...just don't try to set any records.
Ask a toddler to pick something up....His butt drops straight to the floor in a complete squat. We lose that flexibility as we get older, but if we gradually work for it with tolerable weights it can really help a lot of functional movements we make every day.

Best of luck,
Dr B&G
 

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