Carb Change

Thate

Thate

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Thinking of switching things up with some lower glycemic index foods.

Currently mostly consume:

sweet potatoes - 54
brown rice - 50
oat meal - 53


Changing to:

lentils - 27
barley - 25
ezekiel bread - 35


What do all of you normally eat?
 
I eat oatmeal and whole grains bread, but I also eat most other carbs in moderation. I do try to avoid a lot of sugar though.
 
Anything below 60 is classed as good - according to Dr Michael Colgan, founder of the Colgan Institute, if you haven't read any of his books, do a search on Amazon and get some from there, very informative!
 
Scotsmark said:
Anything below 60 is classed as good - according to Dr Michael Colgan, founder of the Colgan Institute, if you haven't read any of his books, do a search on Amazon and get some from there, very informative!
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"Optimum Sports Nutrition" by Michael Colgan isthe best book on performance nutrition that I have ever read. I often use it as a reference.
 
liftsiron said:
"Optimum Sports Nutrition" by Michael Colgan isthe best book on performance nutrition that I have ever read. I often use it as a reference.
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His other one "Sports Nutrition Guide", IMO is even better, it's a few years newer and each chapter is a specific nutrient, whether it's a mineral, vitamin or glucosamine etc, very detailed description, function, where to find and minimum amounts required by the athelete.
 
After all these years in this game the more easy it is and more bullshit i've discovered.

complex carbs, simple carbs, fast acting proteins at certain times, windows of opportunity, this ,that , cardio on empty stomach or not, to eat or not to eat before cardio...all bullshit.

it's simple it doesnt matter what types of carbs you eat what matters it's how much and in maybe , just maybe when but not a big deal.

-totals cals consumed is where is at.

- I eat before cardio . it doesnt matter at what time u do cardio as long as u get it done..

- feed yourself with enough protein throughout the day , it doesnt have to be fast acting pro for pwo....ive dieted on 6 solid meals many times..i got shredded once using only fruits and veggies as carbs..some other time i ate steak all the way until week 1..at another time i had a cheat meal every week until contest day once per week..ive also done hitt cardio only for preps ...then ive tried long moderate sessions for cardio with good results too..everything works you just have to be consistent. Once u hit plateau u need to decrease carb cals slowly, or add 5-10 minutes or cardio or drop fat intake by 5g but NOT all three or two of them 3 at the same time ..ALWAYS change or decrease one thing at a time..you should not be losing more than 1 to 1.5 lbs per week..if you are losing more than that u bet you're sacrificing muscle as well.
 
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OLYMPIAN said:
After all these years in this game the more easy it is and more bullshit i've discovered.

complex carbs, simple carbs, fast acting proteins at certain times, windows of opportunity, this ,that , cardio on empty stomach or not, to eat or not to eat before cardio...all bullshit.

it's simple it doesnt matter what types of carbs you eat what matters it's how much and in maybe , just maybe when but not a big deal.

-totals cals consumed is where is at.

- I eat before cardio . it doesnt matter at what time u do cardio as long as u get it done..

- feed yourself with enough protein through the day , it doesnt have to be fast acting pro for pwo..ive dieted on 6 solid meals many times..i got shredded once using only fruits and veggies as carbs..some other time i ate steak all the way until week 1..at another time i had a cheat meal every week until contest day once per week..ive also done hitt cardio only for preps ...then ive tried long moderate sessions for cardio with good results too..everything works you just have to be consistent. Once u hit plateau u need to decrease carb cals slowly, or add 5-10 minutes or cardio or drop fat intake by 5g but NOT all three or two of them 3 at the same time ..ALWAYS change or decrease one thing at a time..you should be losing more than 1 to 1.5 lbs per week..if you are losing more than that u bet you're sacrificing muscle as well.
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Very good post! To many people try to make diet out to be as complicated as rocket science.
 
Rocket science - cold air goes in the front, gets compressed & warmed, mix with fuel, light it and force it out the back.
 
OLYMPIAN said:
After all these years in this game the more easy it is and more bullshit i've discovered.

complex carbs, simple carbs, fast acting proteins at certain times, windows of opportunity, this ,that , cardio on empty stomach or not, to eat or not to eat before cardio...all bullshit.

it's simple it doesnt matter what types of carbs you eat what matters it's how much and in maybe , just maybe when but not a big deal.

-totals cals consumed is where is at.

- I eat before cardio . it doesnt matter at what time u do cardio as long as u get it done..

- feed yourself with enough protein throughout the day , it doesnt have to be fast acting pro for pwo....ive dieted on 6 solid meals many times..i got shredded once using only fruits and veggies as carbs..some other time i ate steak all the way until week 1..at another time i had a cheat meal every week until contest day once per week..ive also done hitt cardio only for preps ...then ive tried long moderate sessions for cardio with good results too..everything works you just have to be consistent. Once u hit plateau u need to decrease carb cals slowly, or add 5-10 minutes or cardio or drop fat intake by 5g but NOT all three or two of them 3 at the same time ..ALWAYS change or decrease one thing at a time..you should not be losing more than 1 to 1.5 lbs per week..if you are losing more than that u bet you're sacrificing muscle as well.
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Damn thats the best advice ive ever read ha!
 
I agree with some of that oly sure, but I remember you saying how much better sweet potatoes are for you than oatmeal. :)

I am not changing carb timing or anything like that, just the carb itself.

Maybe I'll go eat a big mac instead of chicken/rice as long as the macros are similar I should be in good shape.
 
THe trick is just to figure your own body out, there are just guidelines, not rules when it comes to dieting and what to eat. What works for Oly may not work for me or vice versa.
 
Thate said:
Maybe I'll go eat a big mac instead of chicken/rice as long as the macros are similar I should be in good shape.
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Well, that is just retarded.

the ratio of protein /carb/ fat of the Big mac is way off..a terrible choice but if u burning enough cals daily through cardio and weight training more than what youre eating.....yes , u can get ripped having a big mac daily,smart ass,

i could get shredded on 3.500 cals dAily and/or 10 ,000 daily..of course i would have to perform cardio 3 x more on 10 ,000 cals.
 
Thate said:
I agree with some of that oly sure, but I remember you saying how much better sweet potatoes are for you than oatmeal. :)
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Sweet potatos were always my main source of carbs while dieting..then i used pinneaples and got the same results.. after that i used white rice instead of brown and got shredded as well so what does that tell you?
 
BigSickD said:
THe trick is just to figure your own body out, there are just guidelines, not rules when it comes to dieting and what to eat. What works for Oly may not work for me or vice versa.
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i hear ya but ONE UNIVERSAL RULE to get ripped whether youre an ecto, meso or a Martian is to burn more cals than u consume...no other way around it..
 
OLYMPIAN said:
After all these years in this game the more easy it is and more bullshit i've discovered.

complex carbs, simple carbs, fast acting proteins at certain times, windows of opportunity, this ,that , cardio on empty stomach or not, to eat or not to eat before cardio...all bullshit.

it's simple it doesnt matter what types of carbs you eat what matters it's how much and in maybe , just maybe when but not a big deal.

-totals cals consumed is where is at.

- I eat before cardio . it doesnt matter at what time u do cardio as long as u get it done..

- feed yourself with enough protein throughout the day , it doesnt have to be fast acting pro for pwo....ive dieted on 6 solid meals many times..i got shredded once using only fruits and veggies as carbs..some other time i ate steak all the way until week 1..at another time i had a cheat meal every week until contest day once per week..ive also done hitt cardio only for preps ...then ive tried long moderate sessions for cardio with good results too..everything works you just have to be consistent. Once u hit plateau u need to decrease carb cals slowly, or add 5-10 minutes or cardio or drop fat intake by 5g but NOT all three or two of them 3 at the same time ..ALWAYS change or decrease one thing at a time..you should not be losing more than 1 to 1.5 lbs per week..if you are losing more than that u bet you're sacrificing muscle as well.
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well put!!
 
Very Very good information here, which again...comes down to basics, basics. Finding your own body's inner workings is 90% of the struggle people deal with when Dieting OR trying to put on lean muscle....Consistency is something i stress to all who approach me and ask how i keep looking better each year. Consistency and finding how your body responds to food/macros is where it's at. Hands down. Great informaiton DRVJ and OLY :)
 
OLYMPIAN said:
Sweet potatos were always my main source of carbs while dieting..then i used pinneaples and got the same results.. after that i used white rice instead of brown and got shredded as well so what does that tell you?
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well you proved my point that there wasn't much difference between sweet potatoes and oatmeal ;)
 
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