Child support

[wallyd]

Since 2010, when my ex couldn’t keep her knees together, I’ve been paying child support. The total amount I’ve paid is over $82320. Out of that amount I bet my daughter hasn’t seen a quarter of that money.

Fast forward to the present, I meet all the criteria to terminate child support. Of course I will still help my daughter & now I know the money will go to her. I’ve already had one hearing to terminate it & tonight I find out I have to have another hearing to get reimbursed for what I overpaid.

I started this process in October, I had to wait until then per the court system. On April 8 I got in terminated after who knows how many phone calls between DFS & the circuit clerks office.

Heres my question, why is it SO easy for a women to get child support & such a bitch to stop it? The court system where I live definitely favors the woman.

 

[Bigpapapumpaf]

Absolutely no disrespect but its because too many men (dads) are dead beats and refuse to pya for their own kids. I have raised 4 step kids that had dad's that never paid a dime to support or care for them.

BPP

 

[wallyd]

Absolutely no disrespect but its because too many men (dads) are dead beats and refuse to pya for their own kids. I have raised 4 step kids that had dad's that never paid a dime to support or care for them.

BPP

All good & I understand your point. In my situation she went after me because she knew I would pay. She chose not to go after the bastard child’s daddy because she knew he wouldn’t pay. I’m not sure how deadbeats get bye with it. If I didn’t pay I would be in jail.

 

[Roughrydr]

So you had to pay child support for someone else's kid? You are a great man. I'm not sure I'd have been so nice. Apparently you look at her as your own. To your question, anything involving the court systems takes forever. The government would never survive as a business in the real world.

 

[inhibitor]

As mentioned above, the government is a business and I learned that early in my case. My ex and I did a dissolution when my son was 1 years old. We agreed on everything without issue we just came to the conclusion that we aren't good together. She didn't want anything, to include child support as she knew I would take care of my part. Took the papers to the magistrate for review, she seen where my ex-wife wasn't asking for child support and kicked the papers right back. This is split parenting 50/50 mind you. So, I wrote a memorandum explaining I will have my son 3 and a half days out of the week and will be providing everything for him the days I have him. I asked to have the child support lowered to less than half. She accepted the paperwork. Went to court, the Judge sees I am paying less than half and asks my ex-wife, are you sure you are agreeing to this? She said, she didn't want ANY child support at all. He said, oh no, he's definitely paying. Then says, that if she wants to up it to the full amount at any time she can. So, after that the money goes to an account that she put in my name, and I get the money back a few days after payment minus the money the Child Support Agency takes out and gets. Thats how fucked the system is, like said above, it's the POS dads that make is bad for all the good dads out there. She even recently tried to get the payments to stop and all they did was spin here between the child support agency and the courts each saying they don't do that you need to go to the other place. The whole system needs revamped. Men need equal rights when it comes to their kids.

 

[MindlessWork]

As mentioned above, the government is a business and I learned that early in my case. My ex and I did a dissolution when my son was 1 years old. We agreed on everything without issue we just came to the conclusion that we aren't good together. She didn't want anything, to include child support as she knew I would take care of my part. Took the papers to the magistrate for review, she seen where my ex-wife wasn't asking for child support and kicked the papers right back. This is split parenting 50/50 mind you. So, I wrote a memorandum explaining I will have my son 3 and a half days out of the week and will be providing everything for him the days I have him. I asked to have the child support lowered to less than half. She accepted the paperwork. Went to court, the Judge sees I am paying less than half and asks my ex-wife, are you sure you are agreeing to this? She said, she didn't want ANY child support at all. He said, oh no, he's definitely paying. Then says, that if she wants to up it to the full amount at any time she can. So, after that the money goes to an account that she put in my name, and I get the money back a few days after payment minus the money the Child Support Agency takes out and gets. Thats how fucked the system is, like said above, it's the POS dads that make is bad for all the good dads out there. She even recently tried to get the payments to stop and all they did was spin here between the child support agency and the courts each saying they don't do that you need to go to the other place. The whole system needs revamped. Men need equal rights when it comes to their kids.

It sucks when you do the right thing you get fucked over by the court. The deck is stacked against the males and it sure is time to change that no doubt as women hold all the cards in the divorce game and it's sickening.

 

[1bigun11]

Inter-meddlers with an agenda permeate every aspect of the government now. Our entire system has become based on the principle that we are all too stupid to manage our own affairs without elitist do-gooders jumping in to fuck everything up. Like Ronald Reagan said, “The scariest words a person can hear is ‘I’m from the government, and I’m here to help’”

 

[wallyd]

As mentioned above, the government is a business and I learned that early in my case. My ex and I did a dissolution when my son was 1 years old. We agreed on everything without issue we just came to the conclusion that we aren't good together. She didn't want anything, to include child support as she knew I would take care of my part. Took the papers to the magistrate for review, she seen where my ex-wife wasn't asking for child support and kicked the papers right back. This is split parenting 50/50 mind you. So, I wrote a memorandum explaining I will have my son 3 and a half days out of the week and will be providing everything for him the days I have him. I asked to have the child support lowered to less than half. She accepted the paperwork. Went to court, the Judge sees I am paying less than half and asks my ex-wife, are you sure you are agreeing to this? She said, she didn't want ANY child support at all. He said, oh no, he's definitely paying. Then says, that if she wants to up it to the full amount at any time she can. So, after that the money goes to an account that she put in my name, and I get the money back a few days after payment minus the money the Child Support Agency takes out and gets. Thats how fucked the system is, like said above, it's the POS dads that make is bad for all the good dads out there. She even recently tried to get the payments to stop and all they did was spin here between the child support agency and the courts each saying they don't do that you need to go to the other place. The whole system needs revamped. Men need equal rights when it comes to their kids.

That is absolutely crazy!

 

[jrod]

That is some shit!! Damn bro.

My son is not my biological but I married his mom and we are a family. My wife did not want to stay with his biological father and decided to punish her by leaving the country and not talking to either one of them nor contribute financially.
I just can’t understand not having the slightest bit of decency to help YOUR child.

 

[wallyd]

That is some shit!! Damn bro.

My son is not my biological but I married his mom and we are a family. My wife did not want to stay with his biological father and decided to punish her by leaving the country and not talking to either one of them nor contribute financially.
I just can’t understand not having the slightest bit of decency to help YOUR child.

I can’t imagine that either.

 

[Guru]

I have a year and a half left for child support. I've been paying since my kid was 3 months old. After we had the baby, I got orders to leave Fort Bliss, and she said she wasn't going. A couple months later, I found out she was cheating on me with an LT. I was a PFC at the time. I filed for divorce and put myself on child support. I hope I don't have to go through this when it's time to terminate. It sucks cause, in my state, they say the best interest of the child. That only means the child goes with the mom unless the most drastic circumstances exist.

 

[wallyd]

I have a year and a half left for child support. I've been paying since my kid was 3 months old. After we had the baby, I got orders to leave Fort Bliss, and she said she wasn't going. A couple months later, I found out she was cheating on me with an LT. I was a PFC at the time. I filed for divorce and put myself on child support. I hope I don't have to go through this when it's time to terminate. It sucks cause, in my state, they say the best interest of the child. That only means the child goes with the mom unless the most drastic circumstances exist.

Start researching now what all is involved in terminating it. Get all your ducks in a row & be ready to go. My hesitation in getting things figured out cost me an extra $500 because of the date I actually filed.

 

[inhibitor]

I have a year and a half left for child support. I've been paying since my kid was 3 months old. After we had the baby, I got orders to leave Fort Bliss, and she said she wasn't going. A couple months later, I found out she was cheating on me with an LT. I was a PFC at the time. I filed for divorce and put myself on child support. I hope I don't have to go through this when it's time to terminate. It sucks cause, in my state, they say the best interest of the child. That only means the child goes with the mom unless the most drastic circumstances exist.

I agree with Wallyd's comment about researching. I don't know the ins and outs myself, but I do know in my state, if the child goes to college, you could still be paying. To me, that's insane. Support should be immediately dropped once the child graduates High School and is 18 years of age. Now if you want to voluntarily help him out when he enters college then it should be your decision to do so, not still have to pay the mother.

 

[wallyd]

I agree with Wallyd's comment about researching. I don't know the ins and outs myself, but I do know in my state, if the child goes to college, you could still be paying. To me, that's insane. Support should be immediately dropped once the child graduates High School and is 18 years of age. Now if you want to voluntarily help him out when he enters college then it should be your decision to do so, not still have to pay the mother.

In my state the child has to meet certain criteria. If they work they have to work a certain number of hours & also take a certain number of credit hours. If they dont work at all they must maintain a different number of credit hours. These are just examples, there’s other circumstances that play into it. I believe at 21 yo child support can be terminated just based on age.

 

[juggaknott2011]

Since 2010, when my ex couldn’t keep her knees together, I’ve been paying child support. The total amount I’ve paid is over $82320. Out of that amount I bet my daughter hasn’t seen a quarter of that money.

Fast forward to the present, I meet all the criteria to terminate child support. Of course I will still help my daughter & now I know the money will go to her. I’ve already had one hearing to terminate it & tonight I find out I have to have another hearing to get reimbursed for what I overpaid.

I started this process in October, I had to wait until then per the court system. On April 8 I got in terminated after who knows how many phone calls between DFS & the circuit clerks office.

Here's my question, why is it SO easy for a women to get child support & such a bitch to stop it? The court system where I live definitely favors the woman.

Bro the system needs a complete makeover ! There are a lot of deadbeat men out there but also a lot of dead beat women as well . I could go in on this subject for pages lol but all i can say is alot needs to change . ALOT !!!!!!!!

 

[wallyd]

Bro the system needs a complete makeover ! There are a lot of deadbeat men out there but also a lot of dead beat women as well . I could go in on this subject for pages lol but all i can say is alot needs to change . ALOT !!!!!!!!

It’s definitely a flawed system.

 

[Paramuscle]

It's tough. MY wife and I went through a divorce and later we reconciled. During the first meetings with the lawyers I told them I would not agree to alimony or child support. I would fight it and we could spend some time and money tied up in court or they could listen. I told them that I would pay for the house my children live in, the car for them to drive safely around in, and I wold pay x, y, and z. I listed specificities things that my children needed to be happy, safe, and to thrive. I paid for her car and house because my children need a safe place to lie their heads and a safe vehicle to go to and fro. I paid out more than I would have most likely but I got to control where the money went. I wasn't being an asshole but I wasn't going to willingly give her money and then my kids complain about not having this or that while she is on vacation on some island.... nope. They knew who I was and what I am and that is a recipe for disaster. So, we came up with that system and it worked for us. It kept me from feeling like I was paying her to go date other guys and my kids were taken care of. Later, we reconciled and got back together and we ae very happy and have been and honestly, the divorce was 50/ 50. She was a cunt and I fucked her friends.... we got past it.




Anyway, not sure if it is helpful but I changed the way I viewed it and that kept me sane.




~PM

 

[Demigod]

Child support.....don't get me started bro...lol.

 

[Bigpapapumpaf]

WOW I was not aware that any courts would make you pay support for a child that was not your biological child. That I could understand as being frustrating. I'm just looking at it threw my glasses and my step kids dad's were all shit heads that did nothing. As far as I was concrned, when I took their mom I took them as a package deal so I treated them like they were mine. Now thats not to say that the dad's didn't get a beating or two over the years but thats another story.

 

[wallyd]

Should have a check this week for my overpayment! What caliber should I get? Lol

 

[Paramuscle]

I am a huge proponent of shot placement over caliber and for that and the capacity ratio, I prefer a 9. I usually run hydro shocks in my edc and while I have a couple of options to choose from, the new G45 I bought is my "go to" unless I am in gym pants and then its my 43X. I found a company that manufactures 15r mags for the 43X so if I am wearing loose gym clothing I will run that usually.





~PM

 

[wallyd]

Just a couple weeks ago I picked up a 300 Blackout. I think I’ve got all the AR’s I’m going to want except I may update one of my 308’s for something a little better (undecided).

As far as handguns I’m mainly a 40 cal fan but I do have a few in 9mm. I find myself mainly carrying an XDS 40 cal or sometimes my sig p365.

 

[warreng]

They should abolish child support altogether. If a woman can choose to have an abortion, then a man should be able to disavow paternity. Think about it: a woman can murder your child in the womb, against your will. They "choose" to have unprotected sex, and then demand the right to "choose" an abortion. But if a guy "chooses" to have unprotected sex with a woman - that's the only choice he gets, and he's on the hook for 18 years. I can see a system in which men are required to compensate women for *half* of the inconvenience of being pregnant, after which they have no further responsibility - basically, a pregnant woman in most states can get disability insurance while she's pregnant, so, a man would pay half of this amount plus half of any medical expenses not covered by insurance. But it's manifestly unfair to give women the exclusive right to choose to murder a man's kid, while not allowing a man to disavow paternity.

What a man should do is fight to have the kid half the time - and pay the woman nothing. Men need to raise their kids, not pay for them (or, pay for them during their parenting time). This will force women to make wiser decisions about who they date, have sex with, etc. It will also promote marriage. Giving women access to all of this power at the very moment they are at their most vindictive - when the relationship has just ended and they want to destroy their ex - is bonkers.

As I see it, courts in many cases should refuse to grant divorces, and should either automatically give kids to the dad half the time, or force dads to get to a place where they can care for their kids half the time. Kids are not better off with mom full-time. In fact, the number one setting in which child abuse is least likely to occur, is in the home of the biological dad. A kid who lives with just his mom is at a very high risk of abuse, mostly because the number one risk factor for abuse is the presence of a non-biological male, like a stepdad or boyfriend, in the home. Kids who are raised by their biological dads do better by every metric. The number of kids with no dad in their homes or lives has grown exponentially - it's actually huge crisis.

If you get a good bulldog lawyer and know how to fight, you can get a good deal. Haul the mom in for a deposition, get huge amounts of discovery, find the dirt. Opposing counsel will come running after you trying to settle.

Divorce is nuts - they can enforce the man's promise to pay and provide, but cannot enforce the woman's promise to do the things a wife is supposed to do.

 

[Paramuscle]

Just a couple weeks ago I picked up a 300 Blackout. I think I’ve got all the AR’s I’m going to want except I may update one of my 308’s for something a little better (undecided).

As far as handguns I’m mainly a 40 cal fan but I do have a few in 9mm. I find myself mainly carrying an XDS 40 cal or sometimes my sig p365.

I keep hitting the edit button instead of the quote.... lol



I built a nice little .300 blk the other day as a truck gun. Nothing fancy just a 7.5 upper with a 6" can. Literally behind the seat of my truck.




~PM

 

[wallyd]

They should abolish child support altogether. If a woman can choose to have an abortion, then a man should be able to disavow paternity. Think about it: a woman can murder your child in the womb, against your will. They "choose" to have unprotected sex, and then demand the right to "choose" an abortion. But if a guy "chooses" to have unprotected sex with a woman - that's the only choice he gets, and he's on the hook for 18 years. I can see a system in which men are required to compensate women for *half* of the inconvenience of being pregnant, after which they have no further responsibility - basically, a pregnant woman in most states can get disability insurance while she's pregnant, so, a man would pay half of this amount plus half of any medical expenses not covered by insurance. But it's manifestly unfair to give women the exclusive right to choose to murder a man's kid, while not allowing a man to disavow paternity.

What a man should do is fight to have the kid half the time - and pay the woman nothing. Men need to raise their kids, not pay for them (or, pay for them during their parenting time). This will force women to make wiser decisions about who they date, have sex with, etc. It will also promote marriage. Giving women access to all of this power at the very moment they are at their most vindictive - when the relationship has just ended and they want to destroy their ex - is bonkers.

As I see it, courts in many cases should refuse to grant divorces, and should either automatically give kids to the dad half the time, or force dads to get to a place where they can care for their kids half the time. Kids are not better off with mom full-time. In fact, the number one setting in which child abuse is least likely to occur, is in the home of the biological dad. A kid who lives with just his mom is at a very high risk of abuse, mostly because the number one risk factor for abuse is the presence of a non-biological male, like a stepdad or boyfriend, in the home. Kids who are raised by their biological dads do better by every metric. The number of kids with no dad in their homes or lives has grown exponentially - it's actually huge crisis.

If you get a good bulldog lawyer and know how to fight, you can get a good deal. Haul the mom in for a deposition, get huge amounts of discovery, find the dirt. Opposing counsel will come running after you trying to settle.

Divorce is nuts - they can enforce the man's promise to pay and provide, but cannot enforce the woman's promise to do the things a wife is supposed to do.

Wow you bring up some good points. Never thought about it that way.

In the state I live in some of the points you made don’t matter. For example I actually have 50/50 custody but the women is usually deemed the primary household. This entitles them to child support. I got my daughter EVERY single time I was awarded time with her but I still paid $490 per month child support. In the beginning the judge told me to pay $1000 per month until a decision was made. The ex would miss court dates & be disagreeable just to prolong the $1000 a month payment because she knew it was going to go down.

The ex was cheating for a lengthy time,. I have no idea how long but I know how fast she moved ol boy into my house once she had me out. None of that meant anything. The known shit bag she moved in has issues & everyone knows it. When you grow up in a small town everyone knows everyone & knows their business.

one day my daughter called crying saying dad come get me. I assured her I was on my way but knew I couldn’t just get her. I had LEO meet me to do a welfare check. If I had got my daughter I would’ve been in jail. Probably hooked up on kidnapping charges not too mention the assault charges if jackass got involved.

I moved 45 minutes from the original home at one point. The divorce decree stated we split the driving 50-50. I refused to drive my daughter back to mom’s house because that wasn’t splitting the driving 50/50. Next thing I know there’s a knock on the door & LEO is telling me I need to drive my daughter back to the exes or face charges.

Fast forward 4-5 years I move into the exes backyard, I moved there because my daughter could walk across her backyard & basically be at my place. After maybe 6 months of being there the ex moved just over an hour away. Guess who had to do all the driving then. If you guessed her you would be dead wrong.

Now I’m trying to get reimbursed for what I overpaid on child support. After many many calls to DFS, the circuit clerk & the judge I contacted the outfit that receiveds the money & sends it out. A male answered my call & I explained my situation. Now the judge has signed, initialed & dated plus stamped the seal on these papers, it’s a done deal. The gentleman told me good luck because our state is SO pro woman he didn’t think I had a chance.

I stared googling all kinds of stuff looking for answers. I finally contacted someone through an 866 number that said they could help me. The lady assured me I would have a check by the end of this week. Needless to say I haven’t given up hope but I don’t have much left. If & when I get that check I’ll update this post.

 

[wallyd]

Update: no check. No check is coming. Back to the courthouse to request another hearing date. Another day of lost wages & who knows if I will get anywhere. Evidently a judgement signed, dated, initialed & stamped means absolutely nothing if you’re a man.

 

[warreng]

Wow you bring up some good points. Never thought about it that way.

In the state I live in some of the points you made don’t matter. For example I actually have 50/50 custody but the women is usually deemed the primary household. This entitles them to child support. I got my daughter EVERY single time I was awarded time with her but I still paid $490 per month child support. In the beginning the judge told me to pay $1000 per month until a decision was made. The ex would miss court dates & be disagreeable just to prolong the $1000 a month payment because she knew it was going to go down.

The ex was cheating for a lengthy time,. I have no idea how long but I know how fast she moved ol boy into my house once she had me out. None of that meant anything. The known shit bag she moved in has issues & everyone knows it. When you grow up in a small town everyone knows everyone & knows their business.

one day my daughter called crying saying dad come get me. I assured her I was on my way but knew I couldn’t just get her. I had LEO meet me to do a welfare check. If I had got my daughter I would’ve been in jail. Probably hooked up on kidnapping charges not too mention the assault charges if jackass got involved.

I moved 45 minutes from the original home at one point. The divorce decree stated we split the driving 50-50. I refused to drive my daughter back to mom’s house because that wasn’t splitting the driving 50/50. Next thing I know there’s a knock on the door & LEO is telling me I need to drive my daughter back to the exes or face charges.

Fast forward 4-5 years I move into the exes backyard, I moved there because my daughter could walk across her backyard & basically be at my place. After maybe 6 months of being there the ex moved just over an hour away. Guess who had to do all the driving then. If you guessed her you would be dead wrong.

Now I’m trying to get reimbursed for what I overpaid on child support. After many many calls to DFS, the circuit clerk & the judge I contacted the outfit that receiveds the money & sends it out. A male answered my call & I explained my situation. Now the judge has signed, initialed & dated plus stamped the seal on these papers, it’s a done deal. The gentleman told me good luck because our state is SO pro woman he didn’t think I had a chance.

I stared googling all kinds of stuff looking for answers. I finally contacted someone through an 866 number that said they could help me. The lady assured me I would have a check by the end of this week. Needless to say I haven’t given up hope but I don’t have much left. If & when I get that check I’ll update this post.

Sorry to hear all that, bro. The takeaway is - don't get married, or if you do, get an airtight prenup. As far as driving, I remember my mediator's report specified that the "receiving parent picks up," and if the parent is more than 20 mins late with no notice, you don't have to return the child. I'd see if you can get that in an agreement - to meet at a certain place, with those rules. Heck, I just started driving both ways, because the mom was always making an excuse, whining, etc.

 

[Paramuscle]

Update: no check. No check is coming. Back to the courthouse to request another hearing date. Another day of lost wages & who knows if I will get anywhere. Evidently a judgement signed, dated, initialed & stamped means absolutely nothing if you’re a man.

I am sorry to hear this bro. Truly.


No amount of retrograde advice will help, it is what it is. "Nothing I say will change where you are mentally, physically, spiritually. Keep pushing forward and being there for the kids and one day that will shine through. Kids aren't stupid, they will see the truth.

My wife and I never fought over our kids or money. Money was handled by me because I went above and at that time, I had the means to do that. I was jumping all over the world working for my rich uncle and he sent me to all sort of exotic and far away lands. During that phase of my life, she was the primary care giver as I wouldn't be home for months and then after 30-60 days, I was gone again. This went on for about a decade. It was hard for her and the kids for me to be gone but I wrapped myself up in the ideas of God and country. Of course later I realized it was all bullshit. I wasn't as concerned with the issues I claimed so much as I was about feeding my own demons and those demons loved violence. The kids were taken care of and when I came home they would come to my house when they wanted and go right back to her when they wanted. Both of us set ourselves aside and focused on the kids and we never fought in front of them, we never talked shit about each other in front of them... The kids knew there were issues but they were never made to choose a side, they controlled the ebb and flow of the schedule. It worked for us and yes, I do realize how rare that is on both sides. Later, we actually reconciled and I sold my house on the lake and I moved back into the house we had bought her in town and here we are.

It literally took YEARS for me to heal as much as I have. I can't tell you the work that we both put in. I fought demons for years and I am also a survivor of a suicide attempt. I tell you these things not to shine a light on myself but because I want you to know that I have been there. Not where you are obviously, my story reflects that. But, I am a survivor of so many terrible things. Do not lose hope. No matter what comes that way bro, stay on point and do what you have to and keep pushing because I promise you that the darkness will go away eventually. It seems hopeless to fight sometimes because the system is stacked against us as men. It is such an antiquated idea to make the women the primary but it is also a hold over from the 1950s when the roles were more socially designed to accommodate that. Now it is just silly because many of these women are just terrible and we have changed the family dynamic so much that many women see kids as their business model.

I truly wish you the best and I don't have the answers but I have an ear and I will give you my number if you ned it.




~PM

 

[wallyd]

I am sorry to hear this bro. Truly.


No amount of retrograde advice will help, it is what it is. "Nothing I say will change where you are mentally, physically, spiritually. Keep pushing forward and being there for the kids and one day that will shine through. Kids aren't stupid, they will see the truth.

My wife and I never fought over our kids or money. Money was handled by me because I went above and at that time, I had the means to do that. I was jumping all over the world working for my rich uncle and he sent me to all sort of exotic and far away lands. During that phase of my life, she was the primary care giver as I wouldn't be home for months and then after 30-60 days, I was gone again. This went on for about a decade. It was hard for her and the kids for me to be gone but I wrapped myself up in the ideas of God and country. Of course later I realized it was all bullshit. I wasn't as concerned with the issues I claimed so much as I was about feeding my own demons and those demons loved violence. The kids were taken care of and when I came home they would come to my house when they wanted and go right back to her when they wanted. Both of us set ourselves aside and focused on the kids and we never fought in front of them, we never talked shit about each other in front of them... The kids knew there were issues but they were never made to choose a side, they controlled the ebb and flow of the schedule. It worked for us and yes, I do realize how rare that is on both sides. Later, we actually reconciled and I sold my house on the lake and I moved back into the house we had bought her in town and here we are.

It literally took YEARS for me to heal as much as I have. I can't tell you the work that we both put in. I fought demons for years and I am also a survivor of a suicide attempt. I tell you these things not to shine a light on myself but because I want you to know that I have been there. Not where you are obviously, my story reflects that. But, I am a survivor of so many terrible things. Do not lose hope. No matter what comes that way bro, stay on point and do what you have to and keep pushing because I promise you that the darkness will go away eventually. It seems hopeless to fight sometimes because the system is stacked against us as men. It is such an antiquated idea to make the women the primary but it is also a hold over from the 1950s when the roles were more socially designed to accommodate that. Now it is just silly because many of these women are just terrible and we have changed the family dynamic so much that many women see kids as their business model.

I truly wish you the best and I don't have the answers but I have an ear and I will give you my number if you ned it.




~PM

I appreciate your response very much. If I’m being honest it’s just making me dig in deeper. I’ll miss another day of work compared to the amount I’ve overpaid. Not too mention I know this entitled bitch won’t just give me the money so her wages will probably be garnished until the funds are collected. The fact that she had my wages garnished & threw a fit for no reason just makes it that much sweeter knowing she will more than likely go through the same thing. In the end having the state step in & handle the money was fantastic because it ended the he said, she said bs. There was a paper trail a mile long.

I used to pick my daughter up when she was younger & she told me how her mom, 2 uncles, grandma & grandpa all talked shit on me. I’d just listen, never lashing out at them in front of my daughter. The 2 brothers have both threatened me with violence, the older one multiple times. I told him he was a grown man & he should do what he thought was right. I reminded him I’m not hard to find, needless to say I have seen him out several times but he just can’t seem to gather up his balls and get something going.

Illbe honest the system is definitely flawed & it is aggravating but even if I don’t get the money back
it won’t kill me. It’s all about principle now. My daughter is 19 now. She has that entire clan figured out & it’s good hearing her thoughts & stories on them. She has asked her mom to stop making TikTok videos because it’s just embarrassing. My daughter actually hopes they do end up banning TikTok she hates her moms videos so much.

EVERYONE told me to sit back & do nothing because my daughter would figure all this out on her own in time. I’m happy to say everyone was right!

 

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Really goes off what you make, so if she makes more then u don’t pay into it as much and also depends who has more custody. If you have 50/50 make sure it’s all written up that you split everything towards the kid or kids. I do know a lot on this topic so feel free to hit me up.