Interesting. Yes you understood my intent. And I see your point. I was kicked out of a GNC several years ago for stopping a young man with a wife and two kids from wasting his money on a well known test booster, plus all the ancillaries the salesman was pitching. In the end I pulled of my shirt and told the kid look at me and look at him, the sales man. And I asked the kid who would you rather listen to? So I steered him towards creatine and a protein powder. I'm banned from that store. Lol