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Sallie Mae Unsure About Future Loans



Top executives are holding "daily deliberations" about just how long the nation's largest student lender can afford to sacrifice its bottom line for the sake of college-bound Americans, Sallie Mae CEO Albert J. Lord said Thursday.

Experts said that, unless the government intervenes or market conditions rapidly improve, Sallie Mae could have no choice but to stop writing new federally backed loans.

House lawmakers on Thursday approved a measure to boost the availability of credit for Sallie Mae and other student lenders, and analysts believe the Treasury department could act as soon as next week.

Sallie Mae lost $104 million in the first quarter as it grappled with higher borrowing costs, restructuring charges and other factors, though Lord said in a conference call with analysts that the company would not lower its full-year earnings target.

Shares of the Reston, Va.-based company climbed almost 6 percent Thursday, but remained 70 percent behind last summer.
Even though the majority of student loans are highly rated and carry a federal guarantee, investor demand for securities backed by these assets has plummeted - a sign of just how nervous investors are about securities backed by mortgages, student loans and other debt.

Bank of America Corp. said Thursday it would stop private student loans, but continue offering government-backed loans. On Wednesday, Citigroup Inc. said its Student Loan Corp. subsidiary will temporarily stop issuing loans to students at schools where profits have not been satisfactory.

These market conditions come just months after a new law reduced government subsidies for federally guaranteed student loans, whose interest rates are capped at 6.8 percent.

That situation has forced Sallie Mae, formally SLM Corp., to lose money on every federally backed loan it makes, testing Wall Street's patience as around 60 other companies have exited the market for those loans, either permanently or temporarily.

More than 75 percent of federal student loans are issued by those lenders, which primarily raise money by bundling loans into securities sold to institutional investors.

If the appetite for such securities doesn't grow, Sallie Mae could be forced to halt new student loans, said Mark Kantrowitz, an expert on student loans who publishes the Web site finaid.org. "If they have no liquidity, then they can't make new loans," he said.

However, Sallie Mae would still be able to operate, Kantrowitz said, because the company would still receive fees for collecting loan payments. But the company would have to shrink considerably.

Sallie Mae has already been reducing jobs. The company disclosed in its first-quarter earnings report Wednesday night that it had eliminated 1,000 jobs - or 9 percent of the total staff - in recent months.

And Wall Street analysts are wondering how long the situation will last.

"How willing are you to continue making loans that are unprofitable with the uncertainty that's facing us in Washington?" asked Bradley Ball , an analyst with Citigroup in the conference call Thursday morning.

Lord responded, "We feel a special obligation to make sure that this program operates without a serious hiccup," but added that "we are literally in daily deliberations about how much further we can go."

Despite the bad news, Lord said the company would not reduce its full-year earnings forecast of $1.70 to $1.80 per share, excluding one-time charges and the impact of derivatives, though he said earnings are likely to be on the low end of that range.

To bring stability back to the student loan market, Sallie Mae has been pushing for the Treasury Department to aid the stricken market by purchasing securities backed by student loans.

Company executives said such assistance is urgently needed, particularly as students rush to file loan applications early, given concern about the availability of funding. "We don't have weeks or months to resolve the solution," said Jack Remondi, Sallie Mae's chief financial officer.

With large competitors to Sallie Mae scaling back, the government is likely to intervene within the next two weeks to prevent further distress as colleges around the country kick off the financial aid process for next fall, said Matt Snowling, an analyst with Friedman, Billngs, Ramsey & Co.

Asking lenders to operate at a loss for a sustained period "is a pipe dream," he said.

The bipartisan bill approved by the House would let the Education Department temporary authority to buy loans from student lenders to ensure their access to capital and would let the government advance federal money to companies that would operate as "lenders of last resort" if they run out of cash.

Salle Mae shares rose 93 cents, or 5.7 percent, to $17.19. They peaked at of
 
good post!!!! Good thing I already graduated! But I do wanna finish my masters which I started less than a year ago. This may pose problems.
 
People need to learn to stop borrowing money....You can't pay for it = you probably don't need it.
 
People need to learn to stop borrowing money....You can't pay for it = you probably don't need it.


I think your school of thought applies more to depreciating assets and discretionary spending.

My sister is paying $40k/year to send my nephew to Carnegie Mellon.

My neice just been accepted to Niagara...which will be an addtional $35 - $37k / yr.


IMO this is a lot to try and do.
 
School loans are a necessary evil...............most of the country does not have the funds to pay cash for their children's education.
 
People need to learn to stop borrowing money....You can't pay for it = you probably don't need it.

if you can pay for college with cash out of pocket, than you won't even need the degree as you are already doing well for yourself.
 
There are many ways to pay for school. A: You don't need IVY league schools to make it in life. The degree is just a piece of paper that opens opportunities for you.

State schools are fine, you can save on housing by living with a roomate or at home. If you're really poor you can get grants, if you're smart or a minority you can get schalorships.

It could work for most people, but instead they choose the following:
Spend $40/yr to become a teacher or a social worker. Then wonder why they're in debt.
 
BTW, I got through engineering without borrowing a fucking dollar. No MIT for me, yet I make very good money.
 
BTW, I got through engineering without borrowing a fucking dollar. No MIT for me, yet I make very good money.

We didn't go to MIT or any other learning institution and we are both retired :smoker:

A "formal" education is overrated.
 
There are many ways to pay for school. A: You don't need IVY league schools to make it in life. The degree is just a piece of paper that opens opportunities for you.

State schools are fine, you can save on housing by living with a roomate or at home. If you're really poor you can get grants, if you're smart or a minority you can get schalorships.

It could work for most people, but instead they choose the following:
Spend $40/yr to become a teacher or a social worker. Then wonder why they're in debt.


Does being a minority or even smart get you a free ride ?

Do you ever go for a medical checkup ...if so who is this with ?


The real issue here is the mismanagement of funds my friend. Here look at the clip below....notice how just a little more than 1yr ago.....all was well:




RESTON, Va., Jan. 18, 2007—SLM Corporation (NYSE: SLM), commonly known as Sallie Mae, today reported fourth-quarter and full-year 2006 earnings and performance results that include a total managed student loan portfolio of $142 billion, a 16-percent increase from the year-ago quarter.

“Core earnings” net income was $326 million, or $.74 per diluted share, for the 2006 fourth quarter, compared to $284 million, or $.63 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. For the full-year 2006, “core earnings” net income was $1.3 billion, or $2.83 per diluted share, up from $1.1 billion, or $2.51 per diluted share, for 2005.
 
Are you kidding?


I don't understand your question.

Are you telling me that being a minority gets one a free ride ?

So, African Americans, Asians, Hispanics and Women do not have to pay for their college education ?
 
Interesting, nobody complained about the colleges overinflating the cost of paper.
Personally, I would like to know how vagas got through college without borrowing a dime? Parents buy the car, pay for insurance, laundry at home, bartender? How did you do it?
 
Simple, I saved money working at a shipyard, got instate tuition, rented a room from a guy for $250/ month, applied for Pell Grants since income was virtually none, did undergrad research for some money/credits, and worked at Hollywood Video during the nights.

Rode a bike to school. Bought the meal plan for ~$1000 a semester.
 
BTW, I probably do better than most MIT engineers due to the fact I'm in the Oil industry.

They are surely smarter, but poor.
 
Simple, I saved money working at a shipyard, got instate tuition, rented a room from a guy for $250/ month, applied for Pell Grants since income was virtually none, did undergrad research for some money/credits, and worked at Hollywood Video during the nights.

Rode a bike to school. Bought the meal plan for ~$1000 a semester.

In STate tuition varies from state to state. What residence of North Carolina pay when attending a school in NC.....is a little different than what a NY resident may pay at a state school in NY. Moreover, the rent in NY is probably 3-4X what a student may pay in NC.

I majored in Actuarial Science and Risk Management. Not a lot of schools carry this program, so I had no choice but to go out of state.

My point here is that your suggestion may not work in all areas, because the variables are not constant. Esp with riding a bike to a school in NY. I would bet my retirement account that the bike will not be there after class...LOLOLOLOL


It's not as simple as you make it my friend.
 
BTW, I probably do better than most MIT engineers due to the fact I'm in the Oil industry.

They are surely smarter, but poor.


Explain how you come to this conclusion. Are you saying those from MIT that went into Oil / Petroleum make less than you even though they went to MIT ?
 
In STate tuition varies from state to state. What residence of North Carolina pay when attending a school in NC.....is a little different than what a NY resident may pay at a state school in NY. Moreover, the rent in NY is probably 3-4X what a student may pay in NC.

I majored in Actuarial Science and Risk Management. Not a lot of schools carry this program, so I had no choice but to go out of state.

My point here is that your suggestion may not work in all areas, because the variables are not constant. Esp with riding a bike to a school in NY. I would bet my retirement account that the bike will not be there after class...LOLOLOLOL


It's not as simple as you make it my friend.

Of course there are exceptions to everything, I'm just saying that a majority of people get into debt by choice and not necessity.
 
Explain how you come to this conclusion. Are you saying those from MIT that went into Oil / Petroleum make less than you even though they went to MIT ?


What I'm saying is that people who go to MIT are smart, ergo probably will continue to pursue MS or Phd's. If not, then they will most likely go to a high tech company (ex. military weapons systems) and work there.

These are very cool avenues to pursue, but not much money relatively speaking.

I've never met an engineer in our industry from MIT, but then again, we have PDMS designers with 2 yr degrees (if that) making $60+hr plus 1.5X overtime.

Must be nice in your early 20's raking in $150+
 
Of course there are exceptions to everything, I'm just saying that a majority of people get into debt by choice and not necessity.


So how are you categorizing Student Loans......choice or necessity ? Can you separate one from the other or are the two intertwined ?
 
What I'm saying is that people who go to MIT are smart, ergo probably will continue to pursue MS or Phd's. If not, then they will most likely go to a high tech company (ex. military weapons systems) and work there.

These are very cool avenues to pursue, but not much money relatively speaking.

I've never met an engineer in our industry from MIT, but then again, we have PDMS designers with 2 yr degrees (if that) making $60+hr plus 1.5X overtime.

Must be nice in your early 20's raking in $150+


People that go to MIT are smart ? Please explain how this is so. So if you have two students, with one going to MIT and the other starting at the Community College...are you saying the MIT candidate is smarter than the Community College student ?


And oh.....I know Telephone Techs at verizon making $150k with no degree at all.

Would you consider said telephone techs to be more smarter than both the MIT and Community College students ?

Lastly, I know a UPS driver that was able to grow his net worth to more than $700k+., before his 30th B-day......how would you categorize this person ?
 
Income isn't tied to "smarts", I agree there, but generally speaking, people who get into MIT have very high grades, test scores, or some other form of educational advantage over those attending comunity college. CC students can be smart, but MIT students can't get in without proven their academic skills, unless of course affirmitive action comes into play which is a whole nother discussion.

As for student loans, they are never a necessity since you don't NEED to go to college.
 
Income isn't tied to "smarts", I agree there, but generally speaking, people who get into MIT have very high grades, test scores, or some other form of educational advantage over those attending comunity college. CC students can be smart, but MIT students can't get in without proven their academic skills, unless of course affirmitive action comes into play which is a whole nother discussion.

As for student loans, they are never a necessity since you don't NEED to go to college.


There are certain occupations/career choices that may require a college education....ie., doctor, attorney, actuary, physical therapist, ...etc

So if a child has dreams of becoming any of these ......what would you say to them ?


out of curiosity.....do you rent or own a home ?
 

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