Heard all that too. Here's what I think. I think for a guy that is lacking discipline, the place is awesome & will produce results. Why? Bcoz of the strict regimen of training, diet, rest. They have their own personal guy to guide them through everything from every meal to every rep they do in the gym. But what about someone who is already disciplined?
Now here's my part two - is Brandon Curry REALLY that effing lazy & undisciplined that he made more gainz there in 6 months than he has in the past 8 years here in the US?

Seems strange, right? So I DO think there is something else going on too. Crazy quality GH, IGF, Myo-Inhibitors? We all know the main guy running the show over there is richer than rich, and gets the best of the best for these guys, as he's making a worldwide reputation with Oxygen for putting unheard gainz on guys.
Kind of reminds me of the time when Coleman made those alien like gainz from 2002 to 2003 - 40 lbs increase in stage weight. He attributed it to training harder & heavier than before pffttt. Yeah right - a guy who was ALREADY at his peak with 20 years of experience hardcore lifting in haha. I'd say the camel crew might have paid Chad big $$$ to get the drug protocol that he had Coleman on. BUT, the fascinating thing is, they are putting out guys WITHOUT the huge guts, unlike Coleman. Ramy, even at 330, had no gut. Roelly, USED to have a gut, went there, lost much of his gut, and became even freakier. Nathan - no gut also.
We need to get some funds together and send a peak member over to get the real scoop. We need someone who has the knowledge to decipher everything & has alot of vacation time - I vote for Glyco to cancel his trip to Italy and go to O gym!
