PTAaron's 2007 Olympia Expo Sample Testing Thread!

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Thanks Jake. Tracy had that one yesterday and loved it. We tried an Apple one, it has horrifyingly bad, I don't remember the brand.
 
Turns out the apple one that was horrible - was also from Nectar. Their stuff is usually really good, but it is pretty pricey.

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My new product review for the day:

Product: naNO Vapor by MuscleTech. I know you have seen the ads for this one - it is supposed to be the ULTIMATE pre-workout supplement and it is supposed to make you look like Ronnie Coleman in 2 uses.
Okay - here is the deal with pre-workout supplements: I wake up at 8am, take my pre-workout supp at 8:10, pre-workout shake at 8:20, and hit the gym about 8:35 or 8:45... most of these supplements recommend taking them on an "empty" stomach, but my stomach is never empty before I go to the gym!
Okay on to the naNO Vapor review: I could barely wake up this morning when the alarm went off... so I needed a major boost to get to the gym. I took this product in the timeline I mentioned... and by the time I got to the gym I was still having trouble keeping my eyes open. I almost fell asleep in the parking lot before I got out of my car! Clearly the "stimulant" part of this product is a little overrated. The workout I did today was biceps/forearms/calves/hams/quads... during my bicep and workout (preacher curls and hammer curls) I didn't notice much. Walking over to the leg press to do my calves my arms suddenly blew up - it felt like they were going to explode! Same thing with calves - after the exercise they felt like they exploded as I walked to the leg curl machine. My hamstrings got a major pump from that as well - which is a strange feeling!
I didn't notice any major temperature changes like they advertise in the magazine ads, I also didn't notice any improvement in my focus or energy levels AT ALL. In fact I had a hard time getting motivated to push myself on squats at all.
Now the package I had was a 3 serving package, and they recommended 1/3 of it for your first time - but for a really amazing workout you should have all 3 servings. I had half of the packet today... tomorrow I will try using a whole packet and see if it does anything more.
In comparison to Buzz Saw from TrueProtein.com (my gold standard) I would say this one rates about a 2.5 out of 5 so far, and that is only because it really gets the blood flowing to the muscles. If I did higher volume training, I am sure I would have noticed that more... but we are all educated enough to know that just because you get a pump, it doesn't mean you got a good workout!

If anyone else tries this one, please post up a review.
 
Product: Oh Yeah! bar by ISS.
AWESOME tasting bar!! Not sure what the stats are on it... but damn is it good!
 
PTAaron said:
Turns out the apple one that was horrible - was also from Nectar. Their stuff is usually really good, but it is pretty pricey.

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My new product review for the day:

Product: naNO Vapor by MuscleTech. I know you have seen the ads for this one - it is supposed to be the ULTIMATE pre-workout supplement and it is supposed to make you look like Ronnie Coleman in 2 uses.
Okay - here is the deal with pre-workout supplements: I wake up at 8am, take my pre-workout supp at 8:10, pre-workout shake at 8:20, and hit the gym about 8:35 or 8:45... most of these supplements recommend taking them on an "empty" stomach, but my stomach is never empty before I go to the gym!
Okay on to the naNO Vapor review: I could barely wake up this morning when the alarm went off... so I needed a major boost to get to the gym. I took this product in the timeline I mentioned... and by the time I got to the gym I was still having trouble keeping my eyes open. I almost fell asleep in the parking lot before I got out of my car! Clearly the "stimulant" part of this product is a little overrated. The workout I did today was biceps/forearms/calves/hams/quads... during my bicep and workout (preacher curls and hammer curls) I didn't notice much. Walking over to the leg press to do my calves my arms suddenly blew up - it felt like they were going to explode! Same thing with calves - after the exercise they felt like they exploded as I walked to the leg curl machine. My hamstrings got a major pump from that as well - which is a strange feeling!
I didn't notice any major temperature changes like they advertise in the magazine ads, I also didn't notice any improvement in my focus or energy levels AT ALL. In fact I had a hard time getting motivated to push myself on squats at all.
Now the package I had was a 3 serving package, and they recommended 1/3 of it for your first time - but for a really amazing workout you should have all 3 servings. I had half of the packet today... tomorrow I will try using a whole packet and see if it does anything more.
In comparison to Buzz Saw from TrueProtein.com (my gold standard) I would say this one rates about a 2.5 out of 5 so far, and that is only because it really gets the blood flowing to the muscles. If I did higher volume training, I am sure I would have noticed that more... but we are all educated enough to know that just because you get a pump, it doesn't mean you got a good workout!

If anyone else tries this one, please post up a review.

i've used it before. i thought the product was "alright" but i didn't get a lot of the effects i was told about. didn't get the mental focus, the energy boost or the itchy skin (i was kinda hoping for that one lol). however, my work outs did improve a fair bit from week to week.

when you first use it they, like most similar products, advise you to do a test of the product. 1/3 dose...if i remember right. i did that and i felt a bit jittery. however, that might have been the combination of the 3 coffees i had before hand. while i was using it, i got the jitters a few times but not nearly with every drink....not even 1/3 of the time, actually.

looking back on my results, i did like nanovapor and i plan on doing it again. like i said, i noticed the strength gains. i just didn't get everything out of it that they advertise.

i hope that made sense....
 
Thanks for the feedback mouth. :)

I tried it again today, and used a full 3 serving pouch... I still had no increase in energy or focus, and this time the 'pump effect' was barely noticeable. I did start sweating like crazy, but I'm not sure I would call that a benefit! I'm calling this one a no go for me. I get better short term results from Buzz Saw, and beta alanine alone is cheaper and gives great results. I will say that it mixes very well and tastes pretty good though.
 
I tried a few things today in addition to the naNO Vapor...

Product: Freak Fix from Muscle Asylum... Chocolate blackout flavor.
I had this as part of my "protein and high GI carb" shake today... so I added 2 scoops of dextrose/maltodextrin blend to it... but I have to say this was AWESOME! It looked like dirt when I poured it into my shaker because it was so dark - they aren't kidding about "chocolate blackout!" It mixed very quickly considering the small amount of water I put into it for the large amount of powder. Tasted really good. I would definitely consider this one if I were to stop buying in bulk from trueprotein.com
Here is a link: http://bodybuilding.com/store/map/freakfix.html
Definitely try this one if you get a chance!! I'm looking forward to trying out their other products - I think they have a pre-workout product and a fat burner that I have samples of as well.

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Product: R3 from Hard Nutrition. This is an amino acid/recovery product.
I took this one right after my workout mixed in with my Waxy Maize and tri-creatine malate. The flavor was good when I drank it down - helped cancel out the creatine malate flavor... but the aftertaste was really nasty. I don't know if it was because of the mix it was in, or the product itself. Next time I will have it on its own. In this mix the aftertaste made me nauseous and took a long time to go away. I drank it right before hopping in the shower - actually I drank it in the shower... and I thought I was going to throw up the whole time I was taking my shower! I'll have to try this one on its own and see what it is really like.

Here is this product: http://bodybuilding.com/store/hard/rev.html

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Product: Redline Mini shot thing This is a little mini bottle... serving size is half of the tiny little bottle...
I tried this one at work tonight because I was drained... tasted pretty good, and within 10-15 minutes I felt more alert and started sweating like crazy. I'm pretty impressed with this little shot.
 
Hey Aaron, I've been hearing some good stuff on 17-HD. Have you tried it out yet?
 
eVolution said:
Hey Aaron, I've been hearing some good stuff on 17-HD. Have you tried it out yet?

Not yet. I don't think i have enough of it to make a real judgement on the effectiveness though... I believe I only have 2 doses of it.
I can give that a try next though.

Got a couple more to add tomorrow... no time tonight.
 
I tried the supp called Atro-Phex by BSN. It's supposed to be for energy and weight management. The directions said to just start out with one pill. Well I did the other day and pretty much didn't feel anything. So the next day I tried it again...same results. So today I took 2 of the pills. I felt slightly more alert but nothing too dramatic. I did recently start on new blood pressure meds so that could have something to do with the results. So if you do try them start with 2 pills and go from there.
 
Thanks Jake! I was curious about that one... I know Endorush from them is REALLY strong, so I wasn't sure about that one. I tried Arson yesterday... I will be trying more of it today before I make a judgement.
 
PTAaron said:
Product: Garbage Performance Beverage.
This is another one (like the one I posted earlier today) that I forgot to put on my list... oops! This is supposed to be an energy booster of some sort that you mix in a bottle of water and drink through the day. It tastes good... but I can't really say that I noticed any kind of a boost from it. I actually fell asleep while writing notes at work today after drinking it!!! I'm pretty sure it didn't work for me!

Here is info on the product: http://bodybuilding.com/store/gar/garbage.html

I took this supp yesterday and didn't feel anything either.
 
Been trying a bunch of things, but I haven't had a chance to type anything up...

The one that sticks out is Arson from Muscle Asylum Project. Definitely amps up the metabolism!
I'll be trying their "Altered State" pre-workout supplement Monday...
 
I tried something earlier and can't remember what it was now. It came in a light green packet that you are supposed to mix with water before a workout. It's not Garbage... I mixed it with my preworkout whey protein shake.

Whatever it was it worked great! I was really going for a while...but did a lot of sweating too.
 
Product: Altered State ... pre-workout product. This one is in pill form, so it is quick and easy to take.
I'll be honest - with this one I took the pills, then didn't get to the gym for almost 45 minutes because something I ate last night was giving me some serious trouble. It did help wake me up, but I only noticed a minor "pump" with it... of course that isn't what maters.
 
I also tried Arson again today... this stuff is awesome! I took it when I got to work... and I felt like I was on fire most of the morning! I kept having to get paper towels to wipe the sweat from my face and my arms!
 
So the consensus is that Garbage is in fact garbage? ;) Good choice on name then!
 
I got a preworkout packet of this stuff called No-Shotgun. Man I was sweating bullets at the gym. It seemed to work alright. It has 16 grams of protein too. I mixed it with my preworkout whey shake. It was sort of a cherry flavor and tasted horrible by the way. It really messed with my sleep yesterday too. So if you do try it do it early in the day.
 
When I got up today I decided to dig into the bag of goodies to see what I came up with for energy. I decided to go with Red Dragon's Beta-Alanine. I've read a little about it. It's supposed to be taken prior to a workout but since I had a lot of it I went ahead and tried a dose. I seem to have a lot of energy today. Of course that could be residuals from the other stuff I've tried the past few days. I'll take another 2 before working out to see if I notice a huge difference.

Here is a link to their website:

http://www.reddragonintensifire.com/
 
Beta alanine is for increasing strength. Takes a while to build up in the system though. Their dosing is strange, because you should take it 4 to 6x per day... oh well.
 
Once I finish my packets of Altered State, I was planning to try NO Shotgun... so thanks for the preview!
 
PTAaron said:
Once I finish my packets of Altered State, I was planning to try NO Shotgun... so thanks for the preview!

I suggest diluting it quite a bit because it just tasted bad. It seemed to work though...
 
PTAaron said:
Once I finish my packets of Altered State, I was planning to try NO Shotgun... so thanks for the preview!

I got ONE word for that product............YUCK!!!!!
 
KajedAnimal said:
I got a preworkout packet of this stuff called No-Shotgun. Man I was sweating bullets at the gym. It seemed to work alright. It has 16 grams of protein too. I mixed it with my preworkout whey shake. It was sort of a cherry flavor and tasted horrible by the way. It really messed with my sleep yesterday too. So if you do try it do it early in the day.
is it the VPX No-Shotgun?
 
Have had a lot of protein powders and meal bars recently since I ran out of protein powder... Just haven't had time to post them... so here is a run down:

Product: Lean Dessert from BSN. Tried the Whipped Vanilla Cream and the Banana Nut Bread flavors... OH MY GOD ARE THESE GOOD!! Did I just yell that? Oops! These tasted so good it has to be illegal! The Banana Nut flavor literally tasted just like banana nut bread. 5 minutes after tasting it I kept expecting to find pieces of walnut in my teeth! EXCELLENT tasting product!!
Here is a link: http://www.zupplements.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=680

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Product: Promax 70 - little 70 calorie mini protein bars. I tried every flavor they had of these... they were all delicious! Way too small to be useful as a meal replacement, but they were really tasty if you had a stack of them to go through.

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Product: Vassive-EA8 by ON. This was a 10mg Essential Amino Acid supplement, Berry Burst flavor. I mixed this in with my protein shake one night - it was pretty tasty! Also had it on its own - also pretty tasty ;) Just had a few floaties left over from the Leucine not dissolving, but that is expected.

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Product: Instantized BCAA+Creatine by ON. Orange Blast flavored. I had this one today in the morning mixed in with my whey protein and oatmeal shake... made the shake taste good! Can't really comment too much on the content of it - it is BCAAs and Creatine - thats about all there is to say!

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Product: Pure Protein Chocloate Peanut Butter - meal replacement bar. This was DELICIOUS! I wish I had a whole case of these things!

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Product: STS Pro Muscle Whey XP - this was whey protein... had a funny aftertaste, and if I remember correctly it was the vanilla flavor that I had. Mixed well, but that after taste wasn't so nice.

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Product: BodyTech X Lite - quick mixing protein powder... tasted good. Nothing too memorable about it.

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Product: STS Pro Muscle Glycotein - Cookies and cream flavor... protein with carbs... Nasty aftertaste. It mixed good, but that aftertaste killed it. Both products I tried from this company had the same nasty aftertaste.

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Product: Zero Impact Bar From Redline... pumpkin flavored... tasted really good but very dry.

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Product: Oh Yeah! bar by ISS. I don't know if I reviewed this yet... but it is REALLY good!! I could eat a whole case!

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Product: Karma Bar - tried double chocolate and orange cranberry flavors. Very very very dry, and because of the soy content they made for some really nasty smelling car rides. Tasted good though, despite the dryness.
 
KajedAnimal said:
I tried the supp called Atro-Phex by BSN. It's supposed to be for energy and weight management. The directions said to just start out with one pill. Well I did the other day and pretty much didn't feel anything. So the next day I tried it again...same results. So today I took 2 of the pills. I felt slightly more alert but nothing too dramatic. I did recently start on new blood pressure meds so that could have something to do with the results. So if you do try them start with 2 pills and go from there.
Doesn't yohimbine mess with blood pressure?
 
owgees said:
Doesn't yohimbine mess with blood pressure?

Yeah it does if you use it a lot. Any kind of stimulant or blood vessel constricter can mess with blood pressure.
 
Getting ready to hit the gym... took 2 pouches of SuperPump250 15 minutes ago... already feeling it! Can't wait to tear up the gym!
 
Few new reviews:

Product: Leviathan from Palo Alto Labs. Fat burner... mostly.
Took 2 doses of this product today - didn't really notice much of anything in terms of energy boost, but I did notice an increase in body temperature. Moderate, nothing to write home about though.

Product: Pittbull X Lean Trim - I think that is the name... the logo on the bottle is confusing ;)
Definite energy boost, definite temperature increase - wore off quickly though. took 2 doses a day for last 2 days to give it a fair shake.

Product: 2Shredded - another fat burner/energy pill. Minor bump in temperature, some energy boost. Nothing much compared to Venom.

Tomorrow I am going to try "Amphetalean" ... we'll see how that goes!
 

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