Rousey Beaten

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Finally someone cleaned her clock. She's talking about retirement now. It must still hurt. Respect to her and Holmes.
 
Yeah, I think it would have knocked out most people, man or woman.
The rematch should be pretty good, unless Holm just has Rouseu's number now.
 
holly punched her ass a ton.....she was hurting after the 1st round.

she hasn't been exposed to that..
 
That was a helluva fight; however RR needs to fire her coach. The guy is such a narcissist that he wasn't even able to tell her between rounds that she was getting her ass kicked. He also has a record of messing up great fighters, insofar as he tweaks them to fight his style of fight; as opposed to what they're bodies are inclined to do.

As much as I dislike Jackson, he finds the formula for each individual fighter, and accentuates their natural abilities. RR was totally out of her depth. She looked confused from the start. She standing straight up like a judoka, no head movement, no angles, nothing. RR is a Judo expert.

HH is a striking expert. She already had the instincts to strike after 20 years of training. Adding kicks to her instincts was nothing. She had the explosiveness, and most importantly she had the timing. Add enough counter grappling, and you have a great combination that plays to her strengths.

So why RR's coach told her to fight HH game is beyond me.

Regardless, it was a great fight. No intent to take anything away from either fighter. Hopefully RR learns from this and brings it back to the cage. Male fighters and our ego's can learn a lot from the felines in our midst. Specifically, a reminder just exactly how important the basics are.

RR on her win streak, nothing but basics. HH, nothing but basics.
 
Her coach is an idiot but there arnt many coaches who could help rousey. She needs to revamp her entire game.

The judo throw is easily defended as holm showed but none of the other girls had camps who cared to really help them. Holm is the first real fighter she fought who was competent to be patient and execute a game plan and it showed
 
RR's coach declared bankrupcy 2 weeks ago. I'm pretty sure he's fu%%ing her. Looks like home life is a shambles. Looked to me like she was out of shape at the weigh in. Her uchi mata entry looked like 50% speed. She was not there and got her ass beat. Simple as that.
 
I think RR will win the rematch. IMO, with her uber-ego, she got tired of hearing all the buzz about how Holm was such a great boxer, and stupidly decided to try to beat her at her own game. Obviously a huge mistake. Yeah it went to the mat couple times briefly, and Holly did a good job escaping that arm bar attempt. But next time, RR will realize what her bread & butter is, that she can't beat Holly at her own game, and she will force the fight to take place on the mat - and she will win there. JMT. :)
 
I dont see it...its not really like thats all she was doing, she tried to work her way in plenty of times, part of working your way inside requires you to throw punches.

If shes gonna win she needs to learn more take downs that dont include clinching
 
Glycomann said:
RR's coach declared bankrupcy 2 weeks ago. I'm pretty sure he's fu%%ing her. Looks like home life is a shambles. Looked to me like she was out of shape at the weigh in. Her uchi mata entry looked like 50% speed. She was not there and got her ass beat. Simple as that.
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I heard that about her coach and bankruptcy. Gotta wonder how that happened considering that she's made enough money to have paid him a fair chunk. No matter, he needs to go.

I was wondering about your thoughts on her entry being a Judo guy. The approach looked not only half speed, but straight up white belt level. At that point in the fight, she was toast however.

The thing I think that I'm most surprised by is the cognitive dissonance that seemed to be present. She was almost robotic in her comments about how prepared she was; almost as if she was convinced by sheer brainwashing. And for that dumb ass to be telling her between rounds that she's doing great. WTH?

I have to say that I hope she does get her head right and come back. In the mean time, it will be good to see HH get tested. She's probably one of the first fighters to use true boxing as a base. That in of itself isn't ground breaking for MMA, but the instincts for accuracy and timing does make the approach unique. That kick that ended the fight was instinct. So in a sense, she's as unique in her approach, as Rousey was with her Judo approach.
 
I gotta say I loved it!!! Rousey was outclassed on the feet big time. She started believing in her own hype and a holly a professional boxer set her straight

I agree though RR didn't look herself from the walk out
 
If RR wins a rematch its because she figured out how to defend herself...she got beat up before the kick
 
Does anyone see this as a matter of coaching? I think HH's corner had her prepared, a good game plan. She stayed away and moved well, keeping the pace accelerated so that by the time RR got that first clinch they were both pretty sweaty, that had to help HH escape. And the calm demeanor of RR's coach telling her to keep doing what she was doing? I thought that was sooooo wrong..... even if HH escapes, if you press inside you gotta believe RR would have taken less punches... I scratched my head through the hole thing... why box with a boxer with a reach advantage by staying in her wheelhouse????
 
Yeah its the coaching. But it also has to do with how limited rousey really is

People say she had a bad game plan but her game plan was executed perfectly and it failed. All 12 girls she rushed into a clinch got a take down and finished them for the most part. That doesnt work when if nothing else the person youre fighting has footwork 100x better then you

Rousey needs to learn other take downs and much better head and foot movement
 
Nigbo said:
Yeah its the coaching. But it also has to do with how limited rousey really is

People say she had a bad game plan but her game plan was executed perfectly and it failed. All 12 girls she rushed into a clinch got a take down and finished them for the most part. That doesnt work when if nothing else the person youre fighting has footwork 100x better then you

Rousey needs to learn other take downs and much better head and foot movement
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Good observation and I am sure she will learn from this so that the same mistakes won't be made. Also Ronda allowed her cockiness to cloud her judgment to boot.
 
MindlessWork said:
Good observation and I am sure she will learn from this so that the same mistakes won't be made. Also Ronda allowed her cockiness to cloud her judgment to boot.
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Yeah but at the same time its the job of the people around you to keep you humble, you can act like an ass in public all you want but the people on the gym have to at least keep your training grounded
 
If you look at some of her previous fights, the opponents did well when they pressured her on the stand-up and moved around. As soon as they stopped their feet movement, she took them down or landed a big punch on them. Even the ones who planned on keeping it standing, they eventually left their game plan and she took advantage of them. HH kept to her plan and she learned to defend the takedown and she also is physically fit and strong to add on to everything else.

I think HH was prepared for the fight, but I think she will be even better the next time they fight, regardless of how better prepared RR is...IMO, HH will be even stronger in the rematch, the question mark will be what RR will bring and learn from in this first fight.
 
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Lmao @ the mental midget comparing Rouseys defeat to the falling of the World Trade Center.
 
Nigbo said:
which part am i paying attention too? its 2 hours long
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Use you preferences. If you think it's useful, entertaining or informative to listen to Rogan and White then listen. If not then don't. What combat sports do you do?
 
Glycomann said:
Use you preferences. If you think it's useful, entertaining or informative to listen to Rogan and White then listen. If not then don't. What combat sports do you do?
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O ok my bad youre just positing it to post it. i though there was a certain part about the rousey fight since you posted it in this thread

both boxing and mma
 
I don't think she deserves an immediate rematch. She had nothing for Holly. I think she should work back up the ranks line they all do unless it's a 5 round war and a tough decision.
 
Nigbo said:
Her coach is an idiot but there arnt many coaches who could help rousey. She needs to revamp her entire game.

The judo throw is easily defended as holm showed but none of the other girls had camps who cared to really help them. Holm is the first real fighter she fought who was competent to be patient and execute a game plan and it showed
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I've known her Coach for 17 years, he was a kid who was a great kick boxer. He never had any MMA experience that I recall so I don't know how he got into coaching her. She had absolutely no idea how to fight a southpaw, you cannot square up with a southpaw who has a great straight left cross, that was a grave mistake, her, and her coach should have caught.
 
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