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makaveli25

makaveli25

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hey bros im glad that we all made it over here.. when those busts hit i think it effected us all in different ways.. it defitnely scared me and upset me quite a bit..

Well besides that here it goes, My whole life i have had an anxiety depression disorder. The summer after my senoir year of highschool i tried vicodin for my first time.. I fell in love with it right away because it took all the pain from me mentally and phyically.. i had a very hard time growing up.. throughout the years i am now 23 i have been using painkiller (methadone, oxycotin, even heroin).. i dont know how i hid it from everyone i still kept in the gym and kept a pretty killer phyisque.. The last 6 months ive been taking suboxen..Any of you other bros on this shit.. Its like an opiod without any of the pleasent effects.. Ive just been soo down.. i spend alot of time alone focusing on one thing bodybuilding and these boards.. The last few months i feel like this is all i have had.. I spend too much time in the mirror worrying about shit.. its too much almost.. I dont know i just had to vent im sorry...

anyone else with similar problems please share.. suggestions?
 
on the upside i just got a new job soo ill be buiser a lot more.. ive been reading the bible everynite for about 15 minutes too.. i dont mean to sound like a baby i just feel this is the only place where i can really tell my feelings.. i hide alot from my family...
 
Dude I'm glad you have a place like this where you can vent. As my momma always says, no matter how bad a day you have, the sun always comes up tomorrow.

I'll assume you're seeking out some sort of counseling? If not, there are plenty of free resources available via your local internet searches.

We're always here if you ever need to talk.
 
A bit of brain candy a really smart man once told me:

If you didn't end up feeling like you were a bit damaged growing up in this society, THEN I would be worried about you :)

The other thing he also said that I thought was GREAT

The healing happens as fast as you can't stand the pain anymore.

Consider it is ALL good hun, some of the best lessons in life are the most painful ones.

Cyber Hug

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thank you very much from all three of you very much.. im feeling a bit better..i actually did some cardio today went for a couple mile jog.. that got the endorphins up a bit.. I obsess over shit too much.. my mind runs very rampent.. i think way too much im very intraverted.. i appreciate it again..
 
keep your head up bro, if you need anything from us just holla
 
thanks man im very happy to have a place like this.. it makes things easier when you can just spew it all out at once..
 
thanks man im very happy to have a place like this.. it makes things easier when you can just spew it all out at once..
 
Bro thats really big of you to admit that you have some things that you need to deal with, and that you're facing them. Your job will definitely help you to focus on something else, sometimes change is good. We are right around the same age I think so I completely understand how crazy shit can get now, if you even wanna talk don't hesitate to pm me. Good luck with everything.
 
Bro I have had some tough times too when I was younger my Mom left my sister and I and my stepdad lost it for a while and left too.I was a 14 year old raising a 7 year old kid.I did this for months man while the whole time my baby sister cried everynight and i would just hold her until she fell asleep.She finally moved in with my grandparents and I stayed at home while my stepdad payed all the bills but I had no food just what I could afford working washing cars and cutting grass.I got into drugs and done some shit im not proud of today.But now that im grown and married and a lot smarter I realize if it wasnt for those tough times I wouldnt be the man I am today and in a way im glad I had the tough times because it made me stronger.
 
blupitbull said:
Bro thats really big of you to admit that you have some things that you need to deal with, and that you're facing them. Your job will definitely help you to focus on something else, sometimes change is good. We are right around the same age I think so I completely understand how crazy shit can get now, if you even wanna talk don't hesitate to pm me. Good luck with everything.
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Thamk you man.. its a tough age.. finished up college.. trying to find my place in the world.. having a bunch of hidden deamons screaming at you everday sucks
 
Keep on the suboxen. it will do wonders for the addiction. Are you taking an anti depresant with it? Cymbalta does not interact with it.
Are you going to NA, it really helps. The people there are going through the same feeling you are. It is a great way to network with people who have your best interest in mind.
Keep your head high, many of us have experinced the evils of addiction. It is a hard road back to feeling like your self again, but it does comes with time.
Fight the cravings, the suboxen should help that. Since it is both an opiate catalyst and an antagnist it will make you a little sick if you do fall to temptation. Try to be careful not to hurt yourself in any way, if you have to take a pain killer, most will be counteracted by it.
Take it day by day, good luck, and pray.
 
Keep on the suboxen. it will do wonders for the addiction. Are you taking an anti depressant with it? Cymbalta does not interact with it.
Are you going to NA, it really helps. The people there are going through the same feeling you are. It is a great way to network with people who have your best interest in mind.
Keep your head high, many of us have experienced the evils of addiction. It is a hard road back to feeling like your self again, but it does comes with time.
Fight the cravings, the suboxen should help that. Since it is both an opiate catalyst and an antagonist it will make you a little sick if you do fall to temptation. Try to be careful not to hurt yourself in any way, if you have to take a pain killer, most will be counteracted by it.
Take it day by day, good luck, and pray.
 
2BIGFRED said:
Bro I have had some tough times too when I was younger my Mom left my sister and I and my stepdad lost it for a while and left too.I was a 14 year old raising a 7 year old kid.I did this for months man while the whole time my baby sister cried everynight and i would just hold her until she fell asleep.She finally moved in with my grandparents and I stayed at home while my stepdad payed all the bills but I had no food just what I could afford working washing cars and cutting grass.I got into drugs and done some shit im not proud of today.But now that im grown and married and a lot smarter I realize if it wasnt for those tough times I wouldnt be the man I am today and in a way im glad I had the tough times because it made me stronger.
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fred that was a very touching story man that meant a lot to hear that..
 
BIGMAMA said:
Keep on the suboxen. it will do wonders for the addiction. Are you taking an anti depressant with it? Cymbalta does not interact with it.
Are you going to NA, it really helps. The people there are going through the same feeling you are. It is a great way to network with people who have your best interest in mind.
Keep your head high, many of us have experienced the evils of addiction. It is a hard road back to feeling like your self again, but it does comes with time.
Fight the cravings, the suboxen should help that. Since it is both an opiate catalyst and an antagonist it will make you a little sick if you do fall to temptation. Try to be careful not to hurt yourself in any way, if you have to take a pain killer, most will be counteracted by it.
Take it day by day, good luck, and pray.
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thanks big mama.. ive heard a lot of bad shit about anti depressents.. does that one help ?
 
makaveli25 said:
thanks big mama.. ive heard a lot of bad shit about anti depressents.. does that one help ?
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I am manic, have been since age 12. I have taken many psych drugs as well as seen many therapist. It has truey taken me to the GATES OF HELL. One of the reasons I went MIA for two years on I-T. I have been a user of recs since the age of 18. My child hood was not the best-not going into it. I have learned though my sessions how to cope with life, as well as funtion in normal society. Learning these skills wil help with the craving and desire to numb your self.
The cymbalta helped the most with my over all feeling of well being.
I am on other meds now due to miss firing receptors in my brain-hence the f***ked up post. Find a good Psychatrist (sp?). One that not only write scripts but also participates in your therapy.
Pray and god eill embrace your during thid trial.

2BF is right, I would not be the nonjudgemental, and understaning person I am to day if it were not for my deamons i have overcome.
 
BIGMAMA said:
I am manic, have been since age 12. I have taken many psych drugs as well as seen many therapist. It has truey taken me to the GATES OF HELL. One of the reasons I went MIA for two years on I-T. I have been a user of recs since the age of 18. My child hood was not the best-not going into it. I have learned though my sessions how to cope with life, as well as funtion in normal society. Learning these skills wil help with the craving and desire to numb your self.
The cymbalta helped the most with my over all feeling of well being.
I am on other meds now due to miss firing receptors in my brain-hence the f***ked up post. Find a good Psychatrist (sp?). One that not only write scripts but also participates in your therapy.
Pray and god eill embrace your during thid trial.

2BF is right, I would not be the nonjudgemental, and understaning person I am to day if it were not for my deamons i have overcome.
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thats awesome big mama im happy for you !!!!!!
 
makaveli25 said:
thats awesome big mama im happy for you !!!!!!
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You can do it too. Have faith and always know you have people to talk to.
 
makaveli25 said:
thanks man im very happy to have a place like this.. it makes things easier when you can just spew it all out at once..
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I probably shouldnt make a joke out of this thread, but I just think it is funny that this post posted twice (Ironyyyyyyyyyyy) :D
 
I have a friend of mine who is way into painkillers and he said that suboxen fucks you up. It is what they give to people to get off of Oxy's and what not right?
 
makaveli25 said:
thanks big mama.. ive heard a lot of bad shit about anti depressents.. does that one help ?
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There is nothing wrong with anti-depressants, it is just that not all the various forms will work on everyone.

Some are a bit more difficult to get off, I can do a bit of a look in one of the pharmacy drug guides we have.

If you are concerned about anti-Ds, the first thing you could try is St. John's Wort. It has been tested in clinical trials, and it is as effective as three of the 'main' SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors). With far fewer sides, so people are more likely to stay on the herbal one.

You would need to take 1500 mg a day for the dose to be effective, so check the size of the caps.

Also make sure you get it from a GOOD and reputable supplier, the quality of the herb makes a difference, New Chapter is one company I really like, and you can get their stuff on the net.

Anti-D's take a few weeks to get into your system to be effective, the same is true for St. John's Wort. The active ingredient has to reach a steady state.

Consistency would be really important for it to work, even moreso with St. John's Wort.

If it doesn't work for you (cause as not all pharma anti-d's work on everyone either), then you could always go on to try something else.

This could also happen with a script, it takes about a three month stint to tell if it is working.

Also make sure you are taking essential fatty acids, they are really important to brain biochemistry.

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da_arsonist said:
I have a friend of mine who is way into painkillers and he said that suboxen fucks you up. It is what they give to people to get off of Oxy's and what not right?
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ya its for maintinence... they dont fuck you up though.. for like the first week you get a little buzz
 
Tatyana said:
There is nothing wrong with anti-depressants, it is just that not all the various forms will work on everyone.

Some are a bit more difficult to get off, I can do a bit of a look in one of the pharmacy drug guides we have.

If you are concerned about anti-Ds, the first thing you could try is St. John's Wort. It has been tested in clinical trials, and it is as effective as three of the 'main' SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors). With far fewer sides, so people are more likely to stay on the herbal one.

You would need to take 1500 mg a day for the dose to be effective, so check the size of the caps.

Also make sure you get it from a GOOD and reputable supplier, the quality of the herb makes a difference, New Chapter is one company I really like, and you can get their stuff on the net.

Anti-D's take a few weeks to get into your system to be effective, the same is true for St. John's Wort. The active ingredient has to reach a steady state.

Consistency would be really important for it to work, even moreso with St. John's Wort.

If it doesn't work for you (cause as not all pharma anti-d's work on everyone either), then you could always go on to try something else.

This could also happen with a script, it takes about a three month stint to tell if it is working.

Also make sure you are taking essential fatty acids, they are really important to brain biochemistry.

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thanks tat.. three months seems like a long time to wait and see if something is working usually i dont have the patience
 
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