Hello all! I am a 60 year old male and I have been training for over 40 years on and off. I have noticed a decrease in strength over the past few years, and I also have developed some body fat around me waist. I am 5 11" and weigh 205 pounds. I am currently one week into a Winstrol cycle. Do you think I should stack with something like test? I have done the winny thing in the past. No unusual side affects but that was when I was 30 years of age. I'm I crazy for even taking the winny at my age?
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Freezerdude
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I wouldn't use anything without test especially if I was almost 60!
BikerTrash
Vet
At your age your Test levels are so low.... you need Test as a base to your winny
I know some bros out there around your age and the one thing I can tell you is, stay away from Tren. Three of those bros ended up in the doc's office due to symptoms that felt like a heart attack (was not granted but, all say it was horrid). I think it is just too much for an older body. My advice is stick with Var/Primo cycles.
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Glycomann
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It's still going to be trial and error at any age. I am 52. At some point between 35 and 45 my body changed or the winstrol changed because it destroys my joints now and it lowers HDL quite a bit. i think in a perfect world a good TRT doc would be very helpful. Most of the on line HRT clinics are basically a legal way to get gear with very little medical monitoring. If you have a physician that is willing to work with you TRT/HRT would be beneficial.
Anavar, Primobolan, Masteron, Proviron and testosterone are the most comfortable in terms of side effects and general health in my experience.
Anavar, Primobolan, Masteron, Proviron and testosterone are the most comfortable in terms of side effects and general health in my experience.
millenium girl
Moderator
You can take whatever you want but usually guys run test or GH or both.
My joints are shot,lol gonna be 45 and has been getting worst. I haven't taken anything in a long time and started trt then stopped due to my privacy issues.. Feel like I get hit my a truck every day. bad bad
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Glycomann
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Aging sucks camel sack. I had no idea you were off everything for so long.
winny would be the last thing I would use at your age.. This is jus an opinion as winny tears me up.. the gains do not outweigh the pain ...
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bufbiker
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I'm just a couple of years your junior and I also would recommend test. You may also want to look into some peptides. I have been experimenting with evolution peps and would highly recommend their ghrp2 for leaning; of course that is if peps were not research chems. But my test subject has had great results from a low dose test and peps.
I wanted to go back on and never did, bought so me supps and gave them away a few times . so for real its been since 2007 since I have done something real and long term. Since then 2 times I started cycle and about 4 weeks each time. Then trt a few months ago, started feeling good after a few weeks but then I bumped into so many people I knew in the office I decided to stop. Been down hill since. lol
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Glycomann
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How are your health markers? Test level? Myself, I should probably just be on TRT test asn stay on it but I have this affliction. I don't want to be dependent on any drug. So I go off for periods and suffer. I do the same thing with my asthma meds. Matter of fact I threw a bunch of them away and only use 2 now and at 1/2 the prescribed dose. If I am consistent with that I'm pretty good but I keep falling in the psych trap of mine and stop taking it and boom problems after a few days.
But TRT test is great. If I for what ever reason have to drop the gym for a week or so due to life I snap right back in a few days whereas if I was off everything I would gain fat and it would take a month to snap back. Thre seems to be this optimum TRT level dose where I feel very healthy and the body just performs like it use to when I was young. A little less and it doesn't happen. A little more and the fitness level suffers. I like trying to find that ad staying there these days. 250 mg of sustanon works pretty good.
I had my bloods done a few months back for the trt and my test level was 88 I think... or close to that. I try not to take anything, just advil for real bad days. I wish I could afford or get a script for test and GH lol.... I will come up with something eventually
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Glycomann
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Can you use Keith Foulis or one of the other clinics? If you're just looking for 200-300 mg/w I think kit runs about 4 bills to get started then like half that or a little more for a couple vials, which last about 3 months. You would be looking at a little over a grand to 1200 a year. Don't go to Spectrum. They are fuck-ups. This is turning into a serious hyjack. Sorry Landru.
I used Dr. Gordon and it was working out, but just seeing all these people I knew and whom were familiar faces bothered the shit out of me. We were all in the office for a shot and I like to keep my business, "my business" lol..
