It's interesting how we begin with a picture of ourselves in our minds, chosen from people we see and how we would like to see ourselves. The difficult thing is when we want to change our physique to look like another type, like Glycomann's comment to look like Zane. I can relate, I always wanted to look like Steve Reeves, but a 29" waist? LOL, who am I kidding, so we have to get real. I started lifting weights to get the rest of my body in proportion with my big traps, guess what, after 34 years, I'm still trying. Ha ha! I'm impressed that you guys are, too. DPH, 150's? Most people couldn't even get them into position, you are an inspiration. Intensity, your comments stir me up for good reason, they are usually spot on, so let 'er rip, I enjoy the controversy. A1food41, getting big at 50 when everybody else is shrinking or "getting small" is admirable, it says omething about your fortitude. She-Ra, if I told you the line from your waist to your hips remind me of the sweep of a Porsche Carerra, would you believe me? What if I traced it? Willi, wow, semi-delerium from lifting weights, that's almost like a near-to-God feeling. Power of the spirit, rising up! Number-LL, looks like back to supersets and stevia-Balance in yogurt for you my friend, and the waist will shink, trust me, exposing the muscles developed but waiting in the wings. 2 Rhodesians, I can totally relate to what you are saying. I weighed over 245 for 10 years and was very strong, but at 225 I look 10 times better and feel it too. Ozzy, shee-ite, ass-to-heel squats with 450x8? Most people cringe when they get near parallel, once again, the mind to get outta the hole is a powerful force that many can only dream of possessing. I got stuck in the "hole" on my 7th rep one time with 465, I know the feeling, smartly though, I had the safety bars set just 2" below that and gently set the bar down without overstressing my back or knees. There's power in knowing you possess that ability, much more than the muscles needed to do it. That power is what allows you to attempt and rise to "new heights as yet unguessed," as John Masefield put it. All good. Looks like I'm not alone. Now, can anyone tell me how to trim down my traps?