Test Results

[Puff88]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to make this post just to get some feedback and insight from you all. I am 31 years old (almost 32) and went to my doctor recently just for a routine physical and routine bloodwork. I also asked if he can order me a hormone panel, as over the last year or 2 I feel I've come down with some minor symptoms that "could" be due to some sort of imbalance and just wanted to know where my numbers are at. He was only willing to order total and free test, regardless of asking for estro and some others. Sucks, I know and is not really what I want in a dr. But for right now I took what I can get. My total test came back at 454 on a scale of 265-915 and my free test came in at 13.8 on a reference of 8.8-25. So his discussion with me was that i am in range and no need to have any concerns. I feel that I am at the lower end of the normal range based on the numbers and want to know of these numbers are ok or if it is worth a discussion regarding TRT. I feel many are going to say that TRT is only there to get you back to normal range, and that where my numbers are now are where a TRT dr. Would aim for me to be after treatment.

Really what I'm looking for is some feedback from you guys who are on TRT to tell me what your numbers were before you started and where they are now after being in treatment. Had you had numbers like mine mentioned ed above, would you have ever thought twice about TRT or would you see it as being perfectly within range?

 

[Glycomann]

What it means it that you can come off and still recover. Count your blessings. If you want to TRT between cycles just buy some pharma grade and go. Eventually you will get into a realm where you can't recover in less than a year if you blast and cruise. Your choice.

 

[Puff88]

I dont cycle, never ran anything. Those are my levels just natural at 31.

 

[Puff88]

On a side note, the only way I know how to source pharma grade test is through a clinic, and it's crazy expensive. Although, I've come across many on this board and others that run UGL in their TRT and seem to swear by it. Are you suggestion that something longer term like TRT should only be done with pharma grade?

 

[Glycomann]

How are you a vet and never took a steroid?

 

[Puff88]

Just been involved on boards and in contact with a small number of sources over the years, doing my homework for when I am ready.

 

[Dawgpound_Hank]

"Had you had numbers like mine mentioned ed above, would you have ever thought twice about TRT or would you see it as being perfectly within range?"

No. I wouldn't do it. Thirty one years old with numbers still in range, not even a thought for me. Numbers are barely on the low side - not super low or borderline. Enjoy it while it lasts - the day will come when you will need trt, don't rush it.

 

[Puff88]

"Had you had numbers like mine mentioned ed above, would you have ever thought twice about TRT or would you see it as being perfectly within range?"

No. I wouldn't do it. Thirty one years old with numbers still in range, not even a thought for me. Numbers are barely on the low side - not super low or borderline. Enjoy it while it lasts - the day will come when you will need trt, don't rush it.

Thank you for the feedback and answering the question!

 

[wallyd]

If I were you I would wait. Don’t rush it. I started TRT with my test at 250ish range.

 

[Roughrydr]

I'm 63. Been on non stop for 10+ years .minus a few weeks here and there. I've been off completely now since Late August or early September. Not sure which. The reason is to get clean bloodwork done in case alas may be hiding some cancer.
My balls are meat, beauty, big and bouncy but when I fuq nothing comes out. I still feel like I'm ejaculating, but no fluids come out, much to my harems amusement. Also my prostate is enlarged due to low to no test.
My strength is still pretty good. Same poundage just fewer reps.
Any way, if where I'm at is where you want to be, go for it.

 

[Puff88]

I'm 63. Been on non stop for 10+ years .minus a few weeks here and there. I've been off completely now since Late August or early September. Not sure which. The reason is to get clean bloodwork done in case alas may be hiding some cancer.
My balls are meat, beauty, big and bouncy but when I fuq nothing comes out. I still feel like I'm ejaculating, but no fluids come out, much to my harems amusement. Also my prostate is enlarged due to low to no test.
My strength is still pretty good. Same poundage just fewer reps.
Any way, if where I'm at is where you want to be, go for it.

Well when you put it like that..

 

[mrhtbd]

The lowest my total testosterone was ever measured was 5 weeks after the end of a 12 week test and equipoise cycle and no pc. It was 25. First cycle (deca and d-bol) was at age 27 at 170 lbs, but I had pulled a 390lb deadlift for 1 on my 12th set 6 years earlier and before starting the cycle had squatted 6x5 with 425. Here?s a tip, you look lean, juice will cause you to loose that.

 

[Puff88]

What do you mean juice will cause you to lose that?

 

[Pen Sillman]

Not quite sure what it is ur trying to acheive or where you trying to get or what ur willing to do to get there?

Not an expert but I'm 60 and have been down this road. Anything 200 or under is considered in the low range and you can probly get a script from a Doc but good luck on getting them to script you Test to get you to the higher range of "normal. They will give you the bare minimum to raise your levels. When I say this, I'm talking about your average physician or endocrinologist. These private rejuvination cliinics will accomodate you into getting into the higher ranges, but it comes at a price. They will want to charge you a couple grand or more a year for the privilege and good luck getting your health insurance to pay for it.

What is it ur trying to acheive and how far are you looking to go. If you wanna be as close to natty as it gets, ur at the mercy of the doctors.

 

[Glycomann]

My doc scripts me 100 mg/w and, depending on the brand of test C, that dose can get me into the 800 range. It's been reported sicne the late 1950s that 800 ng/dL has to be reached for a therapeutic effect. That has been tossed out the window with the political situation.

 

[Puff88]

Not quite sure what it is ur trying to acheive or where you trying to get or what ur willing to do to get there?

Not an expert but I'm 60 and have been down this road. Anything 200 or under is considered in the low range and you can probly get a script from a Doc but good luck on getting them to script you Test to get you to the higher range of "normal. They will give you the bare minimum to raise your levels. When I say this, I'm talking about your average physician or endocrinologist. These private rejuvination cliinics will accomodate you into getting into the higher ranges, but it comes at a price. They will want to charge you a couple grand or more a year for the privilege and good luck getting your health insurance to pay for it.

What is it ur trying to acheive and how far are you looking to go. If you wanna be as close to natty as it gets, ur at the mercy of the doctors.

Ultimately, the reason I started the thread was to get feedback on the ?number?. It?s a mental thing. I see 450, see it?s on the lower end of the scale, know I?m only 31/32, so now start wondering what that number is going to mean to me. Is it going to be harder to stay in shape, harder to shed fat and stay lean, will it affect me with sex and performance. And also was curious from some of the more experienced guys on this board, if you had those numbers, would you look to treat it, either through a dr. Script or self treatment?

 

[Dawgpound_Hank]

Ultimately, the reason I started the thread was to get feedback on the ?number?. It?s a mental thing. I see 450, see it?s on the lower end of the scale, know I?m only 31/32, so now start wondering what that number is going to mean to me. Is it going to be harder to stay in shape, harder to shed fat and stay lean, will it affect me with sex and performance. And also was curious from some of the more experienced guys on this board, if you had those numbers, would you look to treat it, either through a dr. Script or self treatment?

How about this - how do you FEEL? Not withstanding the # - don't let that # sway you regarding your answer. Is your libido good? Do you still have energy, umphh for the gym, get good pumps?

Some guys may feel like shit on total test blood reading of 400, others might feel like king kong with much lower. I had bloodwork done 2 years ago and total test was - get this - 110. No typo - one hundred ten, and I woulda had no idea. I was still bangin' hard in the gym, and no libido issues. I think there is more to just than the # - I think a lot of it is just how we are wired. If you feel good, then don't sweat it and keep rockin'. Also like I said before, your # isn't really that low. If anything, you could always add in some otc/legal test boosting stuff like tribulus and give your natty levels a boost of up to 100-150 pts or so.

 

[Bananas]

What’s your diet like?
If that’s you in the profile pic u look great . Wouldn’t change a thing.

 

[Puff88]

That pic was during august of 2018. Not quite in that shape right now. Diet is not as clean, I admit.

 

[Puff88]

I'm 63. Been on non stop for 10+ years .minus a few weeks here and there. I've been off completely now since Late August or early September. Not sure which. The reason is to get clean bloodwork done in case alas may be hiding some cancer.
My balls are meat, beauty, big and bouncy but when I fuq nothing comes out. I still feel like I'm ejaculating, but no fluids come out, much to my harems amusement. Also my prostate is enlarged due to low to no test.
My strength is still pretty good. Same poundage just fewer reps.
Any way, if where I'm at is where you want to be, go for it.

I know I am bringing back an old post, but I was skimming through some of my old threads and I came across your comments above. I remember reading this and what you said really hit me. Specifically, if where I?m at is where you want to be, go for it. Do you relate your current issues with being on trt? Were you a steroid user/cycled prior to trt or in your younger years? Throughout this board and others, I read so many positive comments from guys who are treating their low T and so many ?should have started earlier? types of feedback. Clearly we know issues can arise with anything, but going back now and reading this comment really puts it in my head that you regret being on it and would advise others to start? We all have our opinions, I know. I am not complaining, I started this thread because I wanted honest feedback and I appreciate you for that. Just circling back now and wondering if you happen to be on the side of it being a bad decision you made in your life?