tren diet.........

clutchitalian

clutchitalian

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i just started 50mg eod of tren ace....i wanna strip bodyfat so how should i keep my diet?? calories? high protein low carb low fat????
 
im only using carbs pre/post......complex pre/dextrose post....the rest of the meals i use veggies......
 
clutchitalian said:
how many cals?? ballpark????
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Yours will be different probably. I have a desk job and am 54 years old. My cals run between 2200 and 2800 a day depending. If I'm chipping away at fat I will drop low some days and then return back higher. I drop cals by cutting fat, which basically means I replace chicken, beef or pork with fish.
 
clutchitalian said:
no chicken when cutting?? that sucks ive been eating a lot of ground beef...........
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Of course you can cut with chicken, lean beef, turkey and pork. Many of the top pros don't even eat fish - even when they are prepping for a show. Glyco is talking about what works for him and what "he" does. You can't just take what someone else says verbatim and apply it to yourself and expect the same results as them when there are so many variables that are different. Also, nobody can give you any ballpark figure of cals when you have not even mentioned your bodyweight, bf %, activity level, general metab info - like are you one that gains weight easily or are you the type that can eat damn near all you want and still not gain weight, etc etc. However, just as a general rule an easy way to do it is to figure out what cals you normally take in just to maintain, then make adjustments from there. Wanna lose? Drop back the cals 300 or so ed, and see how that's working after 2 weeks. If not losing, drop back a bit more. Losing too much, up the cals a bit and monitor progress. Monitor and adjust, monitor and adjust - simple. Don't just use the scale as your gauge, but the mirror even moreso.
 
clutchitalian said:
how many cals?? ballpark????
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The old rule of thumb for losing weight was 10 calories per pound that you weigh. But that doesn't work for me (or not for very long) since I'm 48 and have an office job. I have to get to 1,600. I weigh 270. Of course you can increase cardio too. You really have to play around with it and see what works for you.
 
An easier way of doing things bro is figure what your target weight is. If you're 200 but want to be 180 eat for that weight. Eat clean, chicken, fish, lean beef, complex carbs, and lots of veggies. no dairy, no sugar. Some days I only have carbs at breakfast and before a workout. Do more cardio, on off days(might be hard on tren). No you will not burn away your muscle if you're eating correctly.
 
I did my body weight times 12 at that time it came out to 2760. So I took that and I applied it to doing a pseudo keto diet. I did actually go into ketosis (I bought the keto sticks). I'd say about 90% of my cals were from fat. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was very high fat, very low carbs and moderate protein. I did that for a few weeks before I introduced the tren a.

I was about 230 and I went down to 208 in about 6 weeks. Then I went back up to about 212 and stayed at 212 to 215 for about 3 or 4 months until I got picked up on an old warrant and did 20 days. In jail I lost about 13lbs at one point I'm not sure how much I weighed when they let me out.

The thing that I didn't do was lower my cals as I was losing weight. I'm going to try that next time I cut and see what happens. Maybe I'll see my other 4 abs!!!
 
willsgotrythm said:
I did my body weight times 12 at that time it came out to 2760. So I took that and I applied it to doing a pseudo keto diet. I did actually go into ketosis (I bought the keto sticks). I'd say about 90% of my cals were from fat. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was very high fat, very low carbs and moderate protein. I did that for a few weeks before I introduced the tren a.

I was about 230 and I went down to 208 in about 6 weeks. Then I went back up to about 212 and stayed at 212 to 215 for about 3 or 4 months until I got picked up on an old warrant and did 20 days. In jail I lost about 13lbs at one point I'm not sure how much I weighed when they let me out.

The thing that I didn't do was lower my cals as I was losing weight. I'm going to try that next time I cut and see what happens. Maybe I'll see my other 4 abs!!!
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Lol nice willi... Ya I did a month and a half in March for some bullshit violation and got s gut from all the chi chi's lol but ya I'm not going Leto but I'm only taking carbs pre and post the rest of my meals are healthy fats and veggies
 
When I got out of jail I started back on carbs. Now I eat a bowl of oatmeal an hour before the gym and I have a bowl with my eggs for breakfast. So two bowls on my gym days and one bowl on non gym days. I also try to focus the carbs around my workout times.
 
Honestly no one here knows your body. You'll have to determine how this is going to go. For most, tren pump our metabolisms way up. Me for example, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to bilk on tren. Humans can't eat that much.

If I were you I'd determine what your standard cutting diet is, clean it up super clean, and add 20% to everything. Monitor results and adjust. If you're fat maybe don't add 20%. If you're an extomorph add 30%.

And get a vagina. Maybe two or three . You'll need it down the road....
 
Darkness said:
Honestly no one here knows your body. You'll have to determine how this is going to go. For most, tren pump our metabolisms way up. Me for example, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to bilk on tren. Humans can't eat that much.

If I were you I'd determine what your standard cutting diet is, clean it up super clean, and add 20% to everything. Monitor results and adjust. If you're fat maybe don't add 20%. If you're an extomorph add 30%.

And get a vagina. Maybe two or three . You'll need it down the road....
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Thanks dark nice advice....
 
Darkness said:
Honestly no one here knows your body. You'll have to determine how this is going to go. For most, tren pump our metabolisms way up. Me for example, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to bilk on tren. Humans can't eat that much.

If I were you I'd determine what your standard cutting diet is, clean it up super clean, and add 20% to everything. Monitor results and adjust. If you're fat maybe don't add 20%. If you're an extomorph add 30%.

And get a vagina. Maybe two or three . You'll need it down the road....
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Uncle Darkness, can you instruct us on how to balance three vaginas without mental breakdown? I tried some years ago and barely escaped with a Nyquil habit and my car keyed.
 
Dawgpound_Hank said:
Of course you can cut with chicken, lean beef, turkey and pork. Many of the top pros don't even eat fish - even when they are prepping for a show. Glyco is talking about what works for him and what "he" does. You can't just take what someone else says verbatim and apply it to yourself and expect the same results as them when there are so many variables that are different. Also, nobody can give you any ballpark figure of cals when you have not even mentioned your bodyweight, bf %, activity level, general metab info - like are you one that gains weight easily or are you the type that can eat damn near all you want and still not gain weight, etc etc. However, just as a general rule an easy way to do it is to figure out what cals you normally take in just to maintain, then make adjustments from there. Wanna lose? Drop back the cals 300 or so ed, and see how that's working after 2 weeks. If not losing, drop back a bit more. Losing too much, up the cals a bit and monitor progress. Monitor and adjust, monitor and adjust - simple. Don't just use the scale as your gauge, but the mirror even moreso.
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Clutch that is the truest and honest answer my God lots of ppl are different find a starting point.... I would suggest 60/30/10 find a base amount of calories say 2800 to start go a week see how you feeling/look and adjust.....good luck bro
 
reps said:
Clutch that is the truest and honest answer my God lots of ppl are different find a starting point.... I would suggest 60/30/10 find a base amount of calories say 2800 to start go a week see how you feeling/look and adjust.....good luck bro
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You see I am way different. If this is 60%protein, 30% carbs 10% fats i would probably not do well on this. My body works best with ~150 - 250 g protein;100-200 g carbs and 100-130 g fats. Carbs are poison to me unless i have insulin sensitivity optimized. My body burns fats much better.
 
Glycomann said:
You see I am way different. If this is 60%protein, 30% carbs 10% fats i would probably not do well on this. My body works best with ~150 - 250 g protein;100-200 g carbs and 100-130 g fats. Carbs are poison to me unless i have insulin sensitivity optimized. My body burns fats much better.
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I was throwing out a starting point and probably should of mentioned about adjusting macros if needed instead of just calorie reduction....but you're right what works for one sometimes doesn't work for another.........I guess my whole point. ...sometimes Im slow to spit that shit out
 
Glycomann said:
Uncle Darkness, can you instruct us on how to balance three vaginas without mental breakdown? I tried some years ago and barely escaped with a Nyquil habit and my car keyed.
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O/t

Well I have no answers. If you recall, I did indeed have a mental breakdown.

Life is good today with a single vagina. If that vagina stops producing, I shall then have zero vaginas, and will need to get back to one.

Now O/T....

This is a Good discussion. We are all different and before using drugs that drastically manipulate things, it's imperative to know how our own bodies react to various nutrition plans and stuff. Me and Glyco for example, are as different as night and day. I stay pretty leAn from high carbs and plenty of junk food. If he ate my dude for a week, he would look like once of those strongmen competitors in the offseason after 73 margaritas. If I ate his diet, I would look like the runt of the litter inside the aushwitz concentration cAmp. But at the same time, he can gain 20 lbs of muscle just by upping protein a smidge and adding a half gram of AAS, and just thinking about it, while I have to force feed everything not nailed down with drugs and peptides and all to get the needle to move 5 lbs over time.

So you need to understand who you are to start.
 
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