Damn Elbow Again

Number-LL

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I had a pretty long break from the weightroom. I started back a few weeks ago and right off the bat my right elbow started hurting with curls. Hammers are okay but even with an EZ curl bar and my hands turned in a little it hurts pretty bad.

Any suggestions? Any therapy I could do at home?
 
In the bad spot on the joint. It is definitely on the back on the outside of the joint.
 
id see a doctor on this one--joint/tendon/ligament issues need some real training to diagnose
 
Just guessing, sounds like tendonitis. Been there, done that more than once. Don't do anything that aggrevates it and time should heal it. If not, go see the doc. If it is indeed tendonitis, a cortisone shot does wonders. :)
 
Thanks guys. The weird thing is it has been months out of the gym and it started up immediately. I may have to get a scan done on it.
 
i think i have the same thing.. been going to therapy and they say it is calcium build up.. the therapy is kind of brutal but i improvise at the gym myself when it acts up and seems to help in between office visits.

follow the tendon from the elbow and push your thumb into it and slide your thumb along the tendon as you are pushing like a mofo! like you're trying to get the last bit of tooth paste out the tube.. do this several times... the doc uses what looks like a metal kids play knife... i usually have bruising then following day but it is helping... its also helping the range of movement that i lost in my right arm.. couldnt straighten my arm fully do to an injury... probably wont get it all back but any improvement is worth it.
 
Hey LL the procurement for "The Big Project" hit the street this week. I'm about to be swept away....

Wanna be my neighbor?
 
nightrain116 said:
i think i have the same thing.. been going to therapy and they say it is calcium build up.. the therapy is kind of brutal but i improvise at the gym myself when it acts up and seems to help in between office visits.

follow the tendon from the elbow and push your thumb into it and slide your thumb along the tendon as you are pushing like a mofo! like you're trying to get the last bit of tooth paste out the tube.. do this several times... the doc uses what looks like a metal kids play knife... i usually have bruising then following day but it is helping... its also helping the range of movement that i lost in my right arm.. couldnt straighten my arm fully do to an injury... probably wont get it all back but any improvement is worth it.
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I think you hit it on the head! This is mainly from an old football injury but usually doesn't crop up until my curl weight does.

I use to go to a chiropractor that did something similar called Active Release Therapy(ART). It helped with the range of motion and the pain a little. I may have to look him up again. I would probably want it scoped first to make sure there isn't something more serious going on.
 
Darkness said:
Hey LL the procurement for "The Big Project" hit the street this week. I'm about to be swept away....

Wanna be my neighbor?
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Good times! I'm sure it would be beautiful days in your neighborhood but don't know if I could swing it with the wife and kids.
 
Go to the ART locater on the link below, and see an ART doc in your vicinity. I had tendonitus several years ago and couldn't hardly move my right hand it got so bad. 4 visits to an ART doc and it was healed.

BTW...the very worst movements for your outer elbow tendon (lateral epicondyle) are skullcrushers and hammer curls. Also, tendons take more time to heal than soft tissue and you may need to lay off arm work completely for awhile. Take fish oil for joint inflammation and the mineral manganese to build stronger tendons. Get well LL!

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John Benz said:
Go to the ART locater on the link below, and see an ART doc in your vicinity. I had tendonitus several years ago and couldn't hardly move my right hand it got so bad. 4 visits to an ART doc and it was healed.

BTW...the very worst movements for your outer elbow tendon (lateral epicondyle) are skullcrushers and hammer curls. Also, tendons take more time to heal than soft tissue and you may need to lay off arm work completely for awhile. Take fish oil for joint inflammation and the mineral manganese to build stronger tendons. Get well LL!

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Thanks man! I never do skull crushers and hammers don't bother it at all. It just hurts when my hand is from about a 45 degree angle to flat when curling.

I drink cod liver oil and take magnesium citrate everyday. I will search the ART link.
 
Number-LL said:
Thanks man! I never do skull crushers and hammers don't bother it at all. It just hurts when my hand is from about a 45 degree angle to flat when curling.

I drink cod liver oil and take magnesium citrate everyday. I will search the ART link.
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Fish Oil is not the same as Cod Liver Oil, which is also vitally important. Manganese is the mineral most useful in tendon repair, not Magnesium.
 
John Benz said:
Fish Oil is not the same as Cod Liver Oil, which is also vitally important. Manganese is the mineral most useful in tendon repair, not Magnesium.
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Sorry I miss read the Manganese. The high potency multivitamin I take has 2mg 100% of chelated Manganese. How much do you recommend?

My son has a big jug of fish oil capsules. I need to steal a few every day to supplement the cod liver oil. :)
 
Had almost the same thing I used some DMSO and asprin for about two weeks at night and it went away.

Dmso on the spot.. crushed asprin on top.. wrap it in plastic wrap.. wash off in the morn
5 days on 2 off or it makes ur skin peel bad

Or go to the doctor
 
TxRebel said:
Had almost the same thing I used some DMSO and asprin for about two weeks at night and it went away.

Dmso on the spot.. crushed asprin on top.. wrap it in plastic wrap.. wash off in the morn
5 days on 2 off or it makes ur skin peel bad

Or go to the doctor
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Sounds like a good recipe to drop the inflammation down.
 
I went back to my old chiro today and got some ART done on my elbow. The range of motion feels better but we will see how it works in the gym. I'm going back twice next week.

He adjusted my neck which has an old football injury but doesn't really hurt. He tested it a little and when he pushed down at an angle to test compression, a pain shot from the top of my head to the upper part of my back. I got dizzy and started sweating. He said that happens sometimes. :)
 
--Update--

My elbow was starting to get better until I did curls yesterday. It started locking afterward and hurt pretty bad. I iced it and went back to the chiro today. He is getting prior approval from my insurance and is going to order a MRI.
 
Darkness said:
Getting better til you did curls eh? I wonder if you should not do them....
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I was doing curls and it was getting better until this weekend.

Are there other ways to work the bicep? I'm guessing not.

The MRI results will be interesting since I have had a messed up right arm for a long time.
 
Straight bar curls are much harder on the elbow than E-Z bar curls. I would avoid hammer curls as well.
 
My chiro called today with my MRI results. It showed that near the attachment point of my Brachialis on my forearm there is a fatty substance. The chiro said it would be like grizzle in your steak. This is causing the weakness and the elbow not moving correctly.

I'm going to look up an old orthopedic surgeon and see if there is anything that can be done.
 
Number-LL said:
My chiro called today with my MRI results. It showed that near the attachment point of my Brachialis on my forearm there is a fatty substance. The chiro said it would be like grizzle in your steak. This is causing the weakness and the elbow not moving correctly.

I'm going to look up an old orthopedic surgeon and see if there is anything that can be done.
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According to the therapist i see that is a calcium build up... on my arm i can not straighten he is breaking it up... to simplify he is massaging the crap out of my arm with a special instrument that looks like a knife and scrapes my arm along this area... hurts like a mother....... but no surgery and i am getting mobility back...
 
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